1 00:00:10,350 --> 00:00:08,099 hello everybody and welcome to today's 2 00:00:11,790 --> 00:00:10,360 Hubble hang out my name is Tony Darnell 3 00:00:13,770 --> 00:00:11,800 I work at the Space Telescope Science 4 00:00:15,900 --> 00:00:13,780 Institute and we haven't really good 5 00:00:21,269 --> 00:00:15,910 hangout plan fee today we're gonna be 6 00:00:24,599 --> 00:00:21,279 talking about 3d printing in space I've 7 00:00:26,790 --> 00:00:24,609 been dying to do that okay so with and 8 00:00:28,319 --> 00:00:26,800 we have with us today Jason Donna he's 9 00:00:29,969 --> 00:00:28,329 the chief technology officer from made 10 00:00:32,190 --> 00:00:29,979 in space and he's going to tell us all 11 00:00:36,210 --> 00:00:32,200 about what the future looks like for 12 00:00:38,100 --> 00:00:36,220 printing up when zero g and but before i 13 00:00:40,170 --> 00:00:38,110 get started let me tell you we're 14 00:00:41,670 --> 00:00:40,180 looking to hat get your questions and 15 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the Hubble 43 00:01:51,749 --> 00:01:49,509 I guess we relate to the game in 44 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:51,759 facebook it was before my time but yeah 45 00:01:55,410 --> 00:01:53,170 there's a lot of Facebook pages out 46 00:01:58,559 --> 00:01:55,420 there that it's and many are Hubble 47 00:02:00,629 --> 00:01:58,569 Space Telescope of Facebook pages they 48 00:02:02,219 --> 00:02:00,639 have a lot more likes than us too so we 49 00:02:03,690 --> 00:02:02,229 one would like to try and catch up so we 50 00:02:06,089 --> 00:02:03,700 hope you'll do that so yeah that's a 51 00:02:08,430 --> 00:02:06,099 good point Scott thanks so which brings 52 00:02:10,620 --> 00:02:08,440 me to the people of my introductions 53 00:02:13,050 --> 00:02:10,630 with me as I as always is dr. carol 54 00:02:14,010 --> 00:02:13,060 christian she is the HST the Hubble 55 00:02:17,490 --> 00:02:14,020 Space Telescope 56 00:02:19,740 --> 00:02:17,500 outreach scientist hi Carol welcome and 57 00:02:23,460 --> 00:02:19,750 also scott lewis from know the cosmos 58 00:02:25,650 --> 00:02:23,470 calm and he's basically dinner known 59 00:02:27,030 --> 00:02:25,660 everywhere on the internet so thank you 60 00:02:30,570 --> 00:02:27,040 all i don't know about everywhere that's 61 00:02:32,370 --> 00:02:30,580 scary let's let's do with the good nerdy 62 00:02:35,220 --> 00:02:32,380 part to the internet i was thinkin that 63 00:02:38,340 --> 00:02:35,230 all right oh oh that's right yeah good 64 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:38,350 clarification yeah okay so as i 65 00:02:42,510 --> 00:02:40,690 mentioned earlier jason dunn he's the 66 00:02:47,580 --> 00:02:42,520 co-founder and chief technology officer 67 00:02:48,780 --> 00:02:47,590 of made in space and you and he is here 68 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:48,790 to talk to us today about 3d printing 69 00:02:52,010 --> 00:02:50,170 and some of the things they're doing now 70 00:02:54,330 --> 00:02:52,020 you'll remember a couple of weeks ago 71 00:02:56,670 --> 00:02:54,340 carol scott and i did a hangout on 3d 72 00:02:58,050 --> 00:02:56,680 printing that as part of the stuff that 73 00:03:01,260 --> 00:02:58,060 Carol would have been working on with 74 00:03:02,910 --> 00:03:01,270 education materials and and and you know 75 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:02,920 visually impaired education things like 76 00:03:08,910 --> 00:03:06,610 that and Jason though is working with 77 00:03:12,180 --> 00:03:08,920 his team his company on something 78 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:12,190 completely different so Jason welcome to 79 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:14,410 our hangout and thanks for having me 80 00:03:20,610 --> 00:03:16,810 here it's a pleasure why don't you tell 81 00:03:23,730 --> 00:03:20,620 us a little bit about why what what what 82 00:03:25,140 --> 00:03:23,740 made in space is doing and you're you 83 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:25,150 you helped co-found it along with I 84 00:03:28,230 --> 00:03:27,250 think to other people is that right tell 85 00:03:31,620 --> 00:03:28,240 us what you're doing on what your 86 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:31,630 company is all about yeah be happy to so 87 00:03:36,750 --> 00:03:34,690 we started main space a little over four 88 00:03:39,150 --> 00:03:36,760 years ago now in the summer of two 89 00:03:42,270 --> 00:03:39,160 thousand ten really myself and my 90 00:03:45,810 --> 00:03:42,280 co-founders came together because we all 91 00:03:47,310 --> 00:03:45,820 believe that humanity needs to live in 92 00:03:50,550 --> 00:03:47,320 more places than just here on the 93 00:03:52,260 --> 00:03:50,560 surface of planet Earth and and we also 94 00:03:54,390 --> 00:03:52,270 believe that that can happen you know 95 00:03:56,370 --> 00:03:54,400 relatively soon as long as the right 96 00:04:00,180 --> 00:03:56,380 people start focusing attention on it so 97 00:04:01,890 --> 00:04:00,190 for us we care a lot about expanding our 98 00:04:04,410 --> 00:04:01,900 reach throughout the solar system and 99 00:04:06,030 --> 00:04:04,420 through that we kind of start looking 100 00:04:09,030 --> 00:04:06,040 all the problems why aren't we doing 101 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:09,040 that today and identified that you know 102 00:04:13,890 --> 00:04:11,290 we can really live off the land so to 103 00:04:16,140 --> 00:04:13,900 speak and manufacture the things we need 104 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:16,150 wherever we go we could actually enable 105 00:04:21,930 --> 00:04:19,330 a more rapid pace of sending humans to 106 00:04:24,330 --> 00:04:21,940 other planets and building new plan that 107 00:04:26,100 --> 00:04:24,340 you know new worlds of our own so we 108 00:04:27,930 --> 00:04:26,110 start focusing on space manufacturing 109 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:27,940 and in 2010 110 00:04:35,460 --> 00:04:31,810 that idea was widely left up to science 111 00:04:37,260 --> 00:04:35,470 fiction some nasta roadmaps had it set a 112 00:04:40,410 --> 00:04:37,270 much further out than you know a few 113 00:04:43,770 --> 00:04:40,420 years later but we we took a different 114 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:43,780 approach and we looked at how the 3d 115 00:04:49,260 --> 00:04:46,650 printing technology could enable 116 00:04:51,870 --> 00:04:49,270 basically robotic manufacturing in a way 117 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:51,880 that we haven't had before and like I 118 00:04:56,430 --> 00:04:53,770 like how you put it with living off the 119 00:04:58,320 --> 00:04:56,440 land that's really cool now this is also 120 00:05:00,990 --> 00:04:58,330 this is also driven in part by annick by 121 00:05:02,790 --> 00:05:01,000 something that NASA is doing right there 122 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:02,800 they had any 3d yet they're calling it 123 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:05,050 the 3d printing in zero-g technology 124 00:05:10,050 --> 00:05:06,370 demonstration or something like that 125 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:10,060 yeah so absolutely so the basically the 126 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:13,690 way the way this worked out is we we 127 00:05:18,900 --> 00:05:16,330 helped reinvigorate NASA in a way we 128 00:05:21,450 --> 00:05:18,910 showed them that as a commercial company 129 00:05:23,340 --> 00:05:21,460 there was actually a business model for 130 00:05:25,590 --> 00:05:23,350 space manufacturing and that's what made 131 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:25,600 in space would be pursuing and through 132 00:05:30,780 --> 00:05:27,250 that we developed some partnerships with 133 00:05:32,790 --> 00:05:30,790 NASA we took in 2011 we did zero gravity 134 00:05:35,340 --> 00:05:32,800 flights and I believe we even have some 135 00:05:37,530 --> 00:05:35,350 some footage there to show maybe later 136 00:05:39,810 --> 00:05:37,540 of us testing 3d printers in zero 137 00:05:42,300 --> 00:05:39,820 gravity and and then we went to design 138 00:05:45,510 --> 00:05:42,310 one for the space stage and the you know 139 00:05:48,270 --> 00:05:45,520 the really exciting thing is just last 140 00:05:50,220 --> 00:05:48,280 month made in space and nasa launched 141 00:05:52,860 --> 00:05:50,230 the first 3d printer to the space 142 00:05:54,570 --> 00:05:52,870 station so this made in space printer is 143 00:05:56,670 --> 00:05:54,580 up there it would work with NASA to 144 00:05:59,010 --> 00:05:56,680 create a technology demonstration 145 00:06:01,290 --> 00:05:59,020 mission out of this and it's called just 146 00:06:04,740 --> 00:06:01,300 like you said Tony the 3d printing in 147 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:04,750 zero-g experiment and with a we caught 148 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:07,570 3d print for short 3d print is really 149 00:06:11,430 --> 00:06:09,730 it's really exciting and for a lot of 150 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:11,440 reasons but the one I'll say right now 151 00:06:16,260 --> 00:06:14,410 is that up until this point in time 152 00:06:18,150 --> 00:06:16,270 there's only been one way to get 153 00:06:20,550 --> 00:06:18,160 hardware into space and that's been 154 00:06:22,140 --> 00:06:20,560 launching it on rocket and now today 155 00:06:24,540 --> 00:06:22,150 with the 3d printer on the space station 156 00:06:27,330 --> 00:06:24,550 there's actually an entirely new way to 157 00:06:29,610 --> 00:06:27,340 get hardware there we in fact just email 158 00:06:32,280 --> 00:06:29,620 the digital file to our 3d printer and 159 00:06:33,780 --> 00:06:32,290 print it out so you think that's 160 00:06:35,250 --> 00:06:33,790 paradigm shift well I'm going to get to 161 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:35,260 that in just a minute because to me it 162 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:37,090 seems like you know mass is mass and 163 00:06:39,690 --> 00:06:38,289 you're going to have to get something up 164 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:39,700 there to make the print things out of 165 00:06:41,670 --> 00:06:41,050 but we'll get to that in just a sec why 166 00:06:43,650 --> 00:06:41,680 what 167 00:06:45,900 --> 00:06:43,660 uh one let's take a step back though and 168 00:06:48,420 --> 00:06:45,910 let's talk a little bit about what 3d 169 00:06:50,610 --> 00:06:48,430 printing is and in particular what is 170 00:06:52,379 --> 00:06:50,620 your what sets your printer apart from 171 00:06:53,999 --> 00:06:52,389 say the one that we talked about a few 172 00:06:55,890 --> 00:06:54,009 weeks ago with what Carol's got going in 173 00:06:57,779 --> 00:06:55,900 the background and everybody knows carol 174 00:07:00,180 --> 00:06:57,789 always has something printing in the 175 00:07:05,340 --> 00:07:00,190 background all of our hangout so so 176 00:07:08,490 --> 00:07:05,350 probably it mine is really cheap what go 177 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:08,500 ahead Jason yeah it's a really good 178 00:07:13,350 --> 00:07:10,810 question when we started this this 179 00:07:15,930 --> 00:07:13,360 company and set the the goal of this put 180 00:07:17,999 --> 00:07:15,940 a 3d printer on the space station we we 181 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:18,009 had a really big hope that a commercial 182 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:20,530 3d printer would do the job because as a 183 00:07:25,439 --> 00:07:23,410 company what we really want to get to is 184 00:07:27,390 --> 00:07:25,449 the point where anybody on planet earth 185 00:07:29,129 --> 00:07:27,400 can send their hardware to space by 186 00:07:31,950 --> 00:07:29,139 printing it there we want to open the 187 00:07:34,140 --> 00:07:31,960 doors to space this way so getting a 188 00:07:36,990 --> 00:07:34,150 printer there quick was was our goal we 189 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:37,000 um we took these commercial printers on 190 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:39,490 the zero-g flights and we tested over a 191 00:07:44,070 --> 00:07:42,250 dozen different printers and then built 192 00:07:46,290 --> 00:07:44,080 some new printers of our own but through 193 00:07:48,540 --> 00:07:46,300 that entire process we did over over 194 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:48,550 three hours of zero gravity time and we 195 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:49,690 found that none of the commercial 196 00:07:54,330 --> 00:07:51,490 printers would work we had to modify 197 00:07:56,129 --> 00:07:54,340 them significantly and you know to get 198 00:07:57,930 --> 00:07:56,139 thermal settings right to get the 199 00:08:00,000 --> 00:07:57,940 mechanical settings right I'll do all 200 00:08:01,439 --> 00:08:00,010 the things you would imagine but then on 201 00:08:03,870 --> 00:08:01,449 top of that just to build a printer that 202 00:08:05,279 --> 00:08:03,880 could survive launch to the space 203 00:08:06,899 --> 00:08:05,289 station to meet all the safety 204 00:08:09,089 --> 00:08:06,909 requirements to work on the space 205 00:08:12,270 --> 00:08:09,099 station not to you know the outgassing 206 00:08:14,310 --> 00:08:12,280 can be harmful for the crew and the EMI 207 00:08:16,290 --> 00:08:14,320 and the things like that we actually had 208 00:08:18,689 --> 00:08:16,300 to just go down a road of developing an 209 00:08:21,029 --> 00:08:18,699 entirely new type of printer one that's 210 00:08:24,149 --> 00:08:21,039 much more rugged and reliable it's 211 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:24,159 extremely safe and it's really easy to 212 00:08:28,469 --> 00:08:27,130 use in fact there's only one button on 213 00:08:30,839 --> 00:08:28,479 the entire printer and that's the on 214 00:08:33,569 --> 00:08:30,849 switch everything else is controlled at 215 00:08:36,089 --> 00:08:33,579 our ground station here in Mountain View 216 00:08:37,829 --> 00:08:36,099 California so we actually operate the 217 00:08:39,569 --> 00:08:37,839 printer from the ground oh so you went 218 00:08:43,409 --> 00:08:39,579 to the apple design school then right 219 00:08:45,030 --> 00:08:43,419 one button is all you need Hughes where 220 00:08:47,190 --> 00:08:45,040 you guys running into when you're in the 221 00:08:49,050 --> 00:08:47,200 the vomit comet as it were doing your 222 00:08:51,810 --> 00:08:49,060 ear research what you said that you're 223 00:08:53,819 --> 00:08:51,820 doing 12 different different commercial 224 00:08:55,199 --> 00:08:53,829 printers of did you see a common issue 225 00:08:56,850 --> 00:08:55,209 among them all that 226 00:09:00,600 --> 00:08:56,860 you needed really address so you get it 227 00:09:02,189 --> 00:09:00,610 mmhmm yeah so the there's there's 228 00:09:06,569 --> 00:09:02,199 definitely kind of a wide range there 229 00:09:07,889 --> 00:09:06,579 but the basic point is you know we had 230 00:09:10,650 --> 00:09:07,899 to figure out is how to get surface 231 00:09:11,939 --> 00:09:10,660 tension to dominate so everybody would 232 00:09:13,799 --> 00:09:11,949 everybody jump straight to the point 233 00:09:17,460 --> 00:09:13,809 well how do you how do you lay down one 234 00:09:20,249 --> 00:09:17,470 layer at a time of plastic if gravity is 235 00:09:21,929 --> 00:09:20,259 not there so for us it was a lot of fine 236 00:09:24,269 --> 00:09:21,939 tune adjustments to make sure that 237 00:09:27,359 --> 00:09:24,279 surface tension alone could could hold 238 00:09:29,220 --> 00:09:27,369 these layers in place and to do that 239 00:09:31,410 --> 00:09:29,230 requires a redesign of the entire 240 00:09:34,259 --> 00:09:31,420 printer in a way because the current 241 00:09:36,299 --> 00:09:34,269 printers today we're designed inherently 242 00:09:38,220 --> 00:09:36,309 with gravity in mind so gravity there is 243 00:09:40,079 --> 00:09:38,230 there to hold build platforms in place 244 00:09:43,109 --> 00:09:40,089 and belts and pulleys move appropriately 245 00:09:45,210 --> 00:09:43,119 with gravity so remove of gravity things 246 00:09:46,949 --> 00:09:45,220 start floating around and even if it's 247 00:09:48,989 --> 00:09:46,959 floating by a fraction of a millimeter 248 00:09:51,780 --> 00:09:48,999 back and forth that can screw up a whole 249 00:09:53,369 --> 00:09:51,790 print so we added me to first and 250 00:09:55,439 --> 00:09:53,379 foremost figure out how to fix the 251 00:09:57,419 --> 00:09:55,449 printers to be more rugged and and you 252 00:09:59,549 --> 00:09:57,429 could you know shake them around and 253 00:10:01,169 --> 00:09:59,559 they'll still print in fact we do that 254 00:10:03,689 --> 00:10:01,179 now we can take our printer wallets 255 00:10:05,340 --> 00:10:03,699 pretty shake it turn it upside down do 256 00:10:07,769 --> 00:10:05,350 whatever one is just you know this 257 00:10:08,999 --> 00:10:07,779 really rugged machine so how'd you do 258 00:10:11,639 --> 00:10:09,009 that what how'd you solve the problem 259 00:10:16,889 --> 00:10:11,649 what exactly is doing or is that some 260 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:16,899 dietary it gets towards a the area of 261 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:18,970 the proprietary like secret sauce of 262 00:10:23,369 --> 00:10:21,730 what we've done eight unicorn is 263 00:10:26,699 --> 00:10:23,379 essentially what it came down to right 264 00:10:29,850 --> 00:10:26,709 space unicorns have space unicorns that 265 00:10:32,579 --> 00:10:29,860 that that's part of it minor 266 00:10:35,489 --> 00:10:32,589 complication talk about know so we yeah 267 00:10:37,350 --> 00:10:35,499 there's a lot of it's a lot of like you 268 00:10:40,139 --> 00:10:37,360 know redesigning thinking of it with 269 00:10:41,579 --> 00:10:40,149 different requirements we um the thermal 270 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:41,589 characteristics that's an interesting 271 00:10:45,689 --> 00:10:43,689 one because if you we all know that hot 272 00:10:48,150 --> 00:10:45,699 air rises in the rooms that were sitting 273 00:10:50,970 --> 00:10:48,160 in right now but if you remove gravity 274 00:10:53,549 --> 00:10:50,980 hot air doesn't rise there's no buoyancy 275 00:10:56,100 --> 00:10:53,559 effects so hot there just stays around 276 00:10:58,949 --> 00:10:56,110 the area where it's created so we had to 277 00:11:00,600 --> 00:10:58,959 figure out how to thermally control the 278 00:11:04,350 --> 00:11:00,610 print environment which is also another 279 00:11:05,909 --> 00:11:04,360 important one so you have a you had to 280 00:11:08,319 --> 00:11:05,919 invent things that sounds like to get 281 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:08,329 all of this stuff to work so I suppose 282 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:10,970 yeah it's a lot like then that's pretty 283 00:11:14,619 --> 00:11:12,410 typical of a lot of things that you know 284 00:11:16,739 --> 00:11:14,629 isn't its involvement with NASA about 285 00:11:19,119 --> 00:11:16,749 technologies just have to be invented 286 00:11:20,739 --> 00:11:19,129 why is net so NASA is interested in 287 00:11:22,389 --> 00:11:20,749 doing this because they want to be able 288 00:11:24,189 --> 00:11:22,399 to print things or they want to 289 00:11:26,949 --> 00:11:24,199 manufacture things in space that's the 290 00:11:29,919 --> 00:11:26,959 that's the driver for it but um I guess 291 00:11:32,379 --> 00:11:29,929 my question is how how is it really i 292 00:11:36,329 --> 00:11:32,389 mean you didn't really thought you 293 00:11:39,369 --> 00:11:36,339 solved the problem of you know launching 294 00:11:41,169 --> 00:11:39,379 parts individual parts in space but you 295 00:11:43,629 --> 00:11:41,179 did you didn't sound to me like and i 296 00:11:45,999 --> 00:11:43,639 don't know how i also say this i don't 297 00:11:47,919 --> 00:11:46,009 think the problem of getting mass up 298 00:11:51,009 --> 00:11:47,929 into orbit has been solved you still got 299 00:11:54,519 --> 00:11:51,019 to have whatever it is that your printer 300 00:11:59,530 --> 00:11:54,529 is using right to be up there and that 301 00:12:01,840 --> 00:11:59,540 is not you know 00 wait and i wantam 302 00:12:05,619 --> 00:12:01,850 Adam yeah well I mean you brought that 303 00:12:08,259 --> 00:12:05,629 up Tony um we we identified that problem 304 00:12:10,299 --> 00:12:08,269 from really from day one because it's 305 00:12:13,179 --> 00:12:10,309 one thing to say hey it's great that the 306 00:12:14,799 --> 00:12:13,189 printer is in space there are problem 307 00:12:17,609 --> 00:12:14,809 even if you have to send the raw 308 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:17,619 material it's still beneficial because 309 00:12:21,939 --> 00:12:19,850 when you're when you don't have to 310 00:12:24,039 --> 00:12:21,949 design your card we're to survive launch 311 00:12:26,019 --> 00:12:24,049 and you remove the requirement of it 312 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:26,029 having it with stance several times the 313 00:12:28,989 --> 00:12:27,290 force of gravity and all these 314 00:12:30,970 --> 00:12:28,999 vibrational loads you can actually 315 00:12:35,139 --> 00:12:30,980 redesign your space structures to be 316 00:12:37,119 --> 00:12:35,149 extremely delicate in a way so imagine 317 00:12:39,129 --> 00:12:37,129 something that only has to work in zero 318 00:12:41,590 --> 00:12:39,139 gravity it doesn't have to support its 319 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:41,600 own weight so just by sending the raw 320 00:12:46,359 --> 00:12:43,850 material in its like most condensed form 321 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:46,369 we can actually let that material go 322 00:12:50,979 --> 00:12:48,410 much longer way by building what we call 323 00:12:53,619 --> 00:12:50,989 zero gravity structures so that's um 324 00:12:54,970 --> 00:12:53,629 that's number one so even today with the 325 00:12:57,359 --> 00:12:54,980 printer there and just launching the 326 00:13:01,119 --> 00:12:57,369 feedstock there's still a net benefit 327 00:13:03,189 --> 00:13:01,129 also time just the fact of just getting 328 00:13:05,199 --> 00:13:03,199 things to space quicker we can by 329 00:13:07,929 --> 00:13:05,209 printing there we can we can shortcut 330 00:13:09,759 --> 00:13:07,939 the entire process of launch manifests 331 00:13:12,009 --> 00:13:09,769 and all those things so hardware to 332 00:13:14,530 --> 00:13:12,019 space in in days to weeks is incredibly 333 00:13:17,139 --> 00:13:14,540 beneficial now still wasn't good enough 334 00:13:19,359 --> 00:13:17,149 for us we recognize it at the end of the 335 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:19,369 day we still don't want to be dependent 336 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:22,130 on earth if we send 337 00:13:27,070 --> 00:13:25,130 crew to Mars to live on Mars and we rely 338 00:13:28,750 --> 00:13:27,080 on earth dependency and have to keep 339 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:28,760 launching rocket after rocket of 340 00:13:34,180 --> 00:13:31,010 resupply we really then solve the 341 00:13:37,090 --> 00:13:34,190 problem of living off the land so when 342 00:13:39,300 --> 00:13:37,100 we start to look at the past couple 343 00:13:41,770 --> 00:13:39,310 years is how can we actually produce 344 00:13:44,470 --> 00:13:41,780 feedstock for the 3d printer on the 345 00:13:46,870 --> 00:13:44,480 space station and we started developing 346 00:13:49,930 --> 00:13:46,880 a new piece of technology that we call 347 00:13:52,810 --> 00:13:49,940 redo and redo for the fact that you can 348 00:13:54,850 --> 00:13:52,820 take a 3d printed part and redo it turn 349 00:13:57,670 --> 00:13:54,860 it right back into the feedstock oh wow 350 00:13:59,680 --> 00:13:57,680 that is awesome yeah so redo is it's 351 00:14:02,170 --> 00:13:59,690 under development right now it's in our 352 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:02,180 lab and it you actually use it for our 353 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:04,490 3d printer feedstock work we're we're 354 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:06,530 getting to the point where in our lab 355 00:14:09,790 --> 00:14:08,210 here in Mountain View we don't have to 356 00:14:12,910 --> 00:14:09,800 buy feedstock anymore we just keep 357 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:12,920 reusing what we already have by redoing 358 00:14:16,870 --> 00:14:15,290 it now the interesting thing is once we 359 00:14:19,060 --> 00:14:16,880 start diving into this problem we 360 00:14:22,690 --> 00:14:19,070 realized that the space station has a 361 00:14:25,810 --> 00:14:22,700 lot of plastic waste a lot of the the 362 00:14:27,730 --> 00:14:25,820 food comes up in polyethylene bags the 363 00:14:31,540 --> 00:14:27,740 packaging foam all these things are 364 00:14:33,670 --> 00:14:31,550 actually a polymer and we redesign redo 365 00:14:35,020 --> 00:14:33,680 to actually take plastic waste on the 366 00:14:38,050 --> 00:14:35,030 space station and turn that into 367 00:14:42,700 --> 00:14:38,060 filament as well so really neat because 368 00:14:45,460 --> 00:14:42,710 what this is is a really useful form of 369 00:14:48,250 --> 00:14:45,470 what we call is are you or in situ 370 00:14:50,020 --> 00:14:48,260 resource utilization so end of the day 371 00:14:52,300 --> 00:14:50,030 we're actually turning waste on the 372 00:14:54,310 --> 00:14:52,310 space station in upcycling it turning 373 00:14:56,590 --> 00:14:54,320 into something more useful that's 374 00:14:59,890 --> 00:14:56,600 amazing so so this there's a question 375 00:15:03,430 --> 00:14:59,900 right now I that space station to make a 376 00:15:05,500 --> 00:15:03,440 new stuff what I I said you can scuttle 377 00:15:07,150 --> 00:15:05,510 butt the space station to make new stuff 378 00:15:08,290 --> 00:15:07,160 once you have enough large up there you 379 00:15:10,210 --> 00:15:08,300 just like oh I don't like this 380 00:15:11,950 --> 00:15:10,220 experiment well if I gonna park what'd 381 00:15:18,250 --> 00:15:11,960 you do with my experiment l I agree 382 00:15:19,690 --> 00:15:18,260 printed it up for a new culture so this 383 00:15:22,210 --> 00:15:19,700 is related to a question jonathan peters 384 00:15:23,770 --> 00:15:22,220 is asking on the Q&A have what types of 385 00:15:25,030 --> 00:15:23,780 materials does a printer use and you've 386 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:25,040 already said that you've got this redo 387 00:15:30,340 --> 00:15:27,770 that's in development you're looking at 388 00:15:32,980 --> 00:15:30,350 recycling or reusing the waste material 389 00:15:35,590 --> 00:15:32,990 that's already on the space station what 390 00:15:39,370 --> 00:15:35,600 is there a base stock that you use just 391 00:15:42,550 --> 00:15:39,380 commonly yeah we uh the printer that is 392 00:15:45,129 --> 00:15:42,560 on the space station today is an ABS 393 00:15:46,980 --> 00:15:45,139 printer so a lot like the 3d printers 394 00:15:50,079 --> 00:15:46,990 that were all used to using in our homes 395 00:15:52,150 --> 00:15:50,089 we're printing with ABS main reason why 396 00:15:53,889 --> 00:15:52,160 there is because this is it it like we 397 00:15:56,079 --> 00:15:53,899 mentioned the technology demonstration 398 00:15:58,150 --> 00:15:56,089 and we need a really good way to compare 399 00:16:00,910 --> 00:15:58,160 our printer works in space compared to 400 00:16:03,819 --> 00:16:00,920 one on the ground so using abs we can 401 00:16:06,309 --> 00:16:03,829 compare against a wide wide amount of 402 00:16:08,740 --> 00:16:06,319 data on the ground now that actually 403 00:16:10,569 --> 00:16:08,750 isn't the end-all be-all we can't you 404 00:16:13,180 --> 00:16:10,579 know build everything we need out of ABS 405 00:16:14,860 --> 00:16:13,190 plastic so made in space will launch a 406 00:16:17,290 --> 00:16:14,870 second printer next year it's a 407 00:16:19,269 --> 00:16:17,300 commercial facilities so that's where 408 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:19,279 all the viewers here if they get excited 409 00:16:23,769 --> 00:16:21,410 and want to build hardware and space by 410 00:16:26,139 --> 00:16:23,779 you know giving us the digital file and 411 00:16:27,490 --> 00:16:26,149 3d printing it it will most likely get 412 00:16:29,949 --> 00:16:27,500 printed on the second printer which 413 00:16:32,019 --> 00:16:29,959 flies next year and it's it does a wide 414 00:16:35,050 --> 00:16:32,029 arrangement of materials so we have 415 00:16:37,210 --> 00:16:35,060 space qualified polymers if you want to 416 00:16:39,100 --> 00:16:37,220 build a CubeSat for instance we can 417 00:16:41,679 --> 00:16:39,110 build that and put it out in the vacuum 418 00:16:44,019 --> 00:16:41,689 we've developed materials that can be 419 00:16:45,460 --> 00:16:44,029 used for biological experiments and 420 00:16:47,980 --> 00:16:45,470 other experiments you do on the space 421 00:16:50,410 --> 00:16:47,990 station so really how much or whatever 422 00:16:52,929 --> 00:16:50,420 you like it's designed to do those 423 00:16:56,829 --> 00:16:52,939 materials nice that's that's really 424 00:16:59,110 --> 00:16:56,839 amazing so I understand the importance 425 00:17:02,949 --> 00:16:59,120 or that where you know the savings of 426 00:17:04,329 --> 00:17:02,959 not having to anticipate you know which 427 00:17:05,500 --> 00:17:04,339 spare part you're going to need when 428 00:17:06,819 --> 00:17:05,510 you're up in space and making sure that 429 00:17:08,470 --> 00:17:06,829 they're all launched I can see the 430 00:17:10,329 --> 00:17:08,480 weight savings there and I also now see 431 00:17:13,500 --> 00:17:10,339 that you especially with redo you'll be 432 00:17:16,149 --> 00:17:13,510 able to remake some of these parts uh 433 00:17:18,699 --> 00:17:16,159 yeah and you're also saving weight from 434 00:17:20,169 --> 00:17:18,709 being able to not when making the part 435 00:17:22,569 --> 00:17:20,179 in space it doesn't have to be as heavy 436 00:17:26,230 --> 00:17:22,579 as when you make it here on earth what 437 00:17:28,810 --> 00:17:26,240 um how I guess is anything being made 438 00:17:31,690 --> 00:17:28,820 now right I mean that as they sort have 439 00:17:33,940 --> 00:17:31,700 they started using the printer yet the 440 00:17:38,110 --> 00:17:33,950 the printer has not been turned on yet 441 00:17:40,360 --> 00:17:38,120 it's a it's basically this printer goes 442 00:17:41,980 --> 00:17:40,370 inside of the microgravity science 443 00:17:43,659 --> 00:17:41,990 glovebox in fact I'll know how well you 444 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:43,669 can see the image behind me on the wall 445 00:17:49,180 --> 00:17:46,250 but it might look like I'm inside of the 446 00:17:52,330 --> 00:17:49,190 space station the msg the 447 00:17:54,130 --> 00:17:52,340 so somewhere up in the corner and it's a 448 00:17:55,870 --> 00:17:54,140 it's what it sounds like it's a glove 449 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:55,880 box that you can put it in experiment 450 00:18:00,270 --> 00:17:58,010 into and and and the astronauts have 451 00:18:02,950 --> 00:18:00,280 this like safety containment around it 452 00:18:04,570 --> 00:18:02,960 now the glove box also gets used for a 453 00:18:06,970 --> 00:18:04,580 lot of other experiments if you've been 454 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:06,980 following what launched on on space 455 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:10,250 explorer with our printer there was the 456 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:12,050 road and habitat there's a bunch of 457 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:14,090 other experiments so we're basically in 458 00:18:18,670 --> 00:18:16,850 the waiting line to get into the glove 459 00:18:21,250 --> 00:18:18,680 box and so it should be it should be 460 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:21,260 really soon and you know fingers crossed 461 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:23,210 so we started seeing parts printed in 462 00:18:28,630 --> 00:18:26,090 the near future okay I have a question 463 00:18:31,060 --> 00:18:28,640 actually about the parts and you you 464 00:18:32,530 --> 00:18:31,070 touch upon it a little bit so you've 465 00:18:34,660 --> 00:18:32,540 been thinking about not only you know 466 00:18:36,670 --> 00:18:34,670 every which way and being able to print 467 00:18:39,700 --> 00:18:36,680 but my experience with my cheap little 468 00:18:41,860 --> 00:18:39,710 printer and we don't use abs because ma 469 00:18:43,750 --> 00:18:41,870 I have no environmental control in my 470 00:18:47,830 --> 00:18:43,760 office some days 100 degrees in 471 00:18:50,410 --> 00:18:47,840 sometimes it's 50 so we use PLA but it 472 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:50,420 with either technology and your I know 473 00:18:56,050 --> 00:18:53,450 your you've thought about this is that 474 00:18:58,660 --> 00:18:56,060 you get these threads and you get and 475 00:19:00,640 --> 00:18:58,670 sometimes the parts need to be polished 476 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:00,650 and things like that so I assume that 477 00:19:05,830 --> 00:19:03,530 you're addressing those because can't be 478 00:19:08,170 --> 00:19:05,840 you know sanding stuff on the space 479 00:19:10,630 --> 00:19:08,180 station and how that stuff go everywhere 480 00:19:12,340 --> 00:19:10,640 so good point yeah making making the 481 00:19:15,070 --> 00:19:12,350 parts a little more perfect that the 482 00:19:18,940 --> 00:19:15,080 ones I'm printing must be part of your 483 00:19:20,290 --> 00:19:18,950 strategy yeah it's a it's a good 484 00:19:22,420 --> 00:19:20,300 question Carol it's something that 485 00:19:25,810 --> 00:19:22,430 anybody who's working with 3d printers 486 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:25,820 today already understands so um we had 487 00:19:30,010 --> 00:19:27,770 to address that from in several 488 00:19:31,950 --> 00:19:30,020 different ways the the fact is is we 489 00:19:34,390 --> 00:19:31,960 can't have a printer that is it is 490 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:34,400 breaking off little pieces of plastic 491 00:19:38,530 --> 00:19:36,290 and letting it float around because at 492 00:19:40,660 --> 00:19:38,540 the moment the Astron opens the door of 493 00:19:42,670 --> 00:19:40,670 the printer and those pieces start 494 00:19:44,290 --> 00:19:42,680 floating out they get stuck in all the 495 00:19:48,430 --> 00:19:44,300 nooks and crannies of the space station 496 00:19:50,260 --> 00:19:48,440 so we've built it's a really 497 00:19:53,410 --> 00:19:50,270 sophisticated type of environmental 498 00:19:56,310 --> 00:19:53,420 control it's something that can recycle 499 00:19:59,110 --> 00:19:56,320 the the harmful gases being created so 500 00:20:01,990 --> 00:19:59,120 you know off gassing of things like 501 00:20:02,890 --> 00:20:02,000 styrene that come out of a print but it 502 00:20:04,870 --> 00:20:02,900 also captures 503 00:20:07,690 --> 00:20:04,880 particulates and it controls the the 504 00:20:09,340 --> 00:20:07,700 temperature of the print volume so so 505 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:09,350 you know the end of the day the best way 506 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:11,090 to get a really good print is to control 507 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:13,450 that volume have the right temperature 508 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:19,730 settings and things like that um used we 509 00:20:23,020 --> 00:20:21,050 mentioned this briefly and Scott asked 510 00:20:26,290 --> 00:20:23,030 you about this also about the the 511 00:20:28,420 --> 00:20:26,300 testing that was done how long did you 512 00:20:30,340 --> 00:20:28,430 guys I mean what was it like in the in 513 00:20:32,380 --> 00:20:30,350 the vomit comet to to test all of this 514 00:20:34,300 --> 00:20:32,390 stuff and was it difficult to get 515 00:20:39,910 --> 00:20:34,310 everything set up in there and do the 516 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:39,920 testing um yeah so there's a lot of fun 517 00:20:48,340 --> 00:20:43,490 stuff I can say about the the weightless 518 00:20:50,740 --> 00:20:48,350 wonder I don't have like yeah honestly 519 00:20:53,140 --> 00:20:50,750 like my the one thing I always say to 520 00:20:56,620 --> 00:20:53,150 anyone whenever I talk about this is if 521 00:21:00,000 --> 00:20:56,630 you ever get the chance to go do it this 522 00:21:03,490 --> 00:21:00,010 is being weightless is it's one of the 523 00:21:05,350 --> 00:21:03,500 best experience I've ever felt I've um 524 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:05,360 through this test program we've done 525 00:21:10,630 --> 00:21:07,490 with NASA I've now spent an entire hour 526 00:21:12,460 --> 00:21:10,640 of my life being weightless it's a 527 00:21:16,780 --> 00:21:12,470 really quick weight loss program if you 528 00:21:21,010 --> 00:21:16,790 need one so do your evo zipper its 529 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:21,020 harbors come right back on yeah twenty 530 00:21:24,340 --> 00:21:22,610 seconds of being weightless and then 531 00:21:28,210 --> 00:21:24,350 next 20 seconds you're about twice your 532 00:21:30,190 --> 00:21:28,220 weight so it's a reasonable it's a 533 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:30,200 really incredible experience being in 534 00:21:33,790 --> 00:21:31,970 being weightless you you realize that 535 00:21:36,730 --> 00:21:33,800 you have a new dimension you can there's 536 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:36,740 no such thing as down anymore it's just 537 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:38,810 it's wild to let your you know to 538 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:41,330 experience that but for us we ended 539 00:21:47,770 --> 00:21:42,890 design we had also be doing real science 540 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:47,780 so we build our experiment specifically 541 00:21:53,830 --> 00:21:50,210 to make sure that it could run is 542 00:21:56,410 --> 00:21:53,840 autonomously as possible so that if any 543 00:21:58,450 --> 00:21:56,420 of us were maybe having too much fun or 544 00:22:02,830 --> 00:21:58,460 maybe not having enough fun and getting 545 00:22:04,420 --> 00:22:02,840 sick directly logo keep going so um you 546 00:22:06,670 --> 00:22:04,430 know the good thing about 3d printers is 547 00:22:08,260 --> 00:22:06,680 you can you know usually turn them on 548 00:22:11,260 --> 00:22:08,270 and they just keep you know they do 549 00:22:14,470 --> 00:22:11,270 their job so we built the experiments so 550 00:22:16,750 --> 00:22:14,480 that it's basically if we roll the video 551 00:22:18,460 --> 00:22:16,760 you'll see it maybe we already did roll 552 00:22:21,730 --> 00:22:18,470 yeah but I'm living in let's go ahead 553 00:22:24,190 --> 00:22:21,740 and do this uh jeez Kelly of Kelly I can 554 00:22:26,500 --> 00:22:24,200 talk about why while I goes is that okay 555 00:22:30,700 --> 00:22:26,510 yeah yeah yeah go ahead Kelly's got it 556 00:22:32,530 --> 00:22:30,710 up I think yeah narrate this so so 557 00:22:37,420 --> 00:22:32,540 you'll see the box on the left it's our 558 00:22:39,460 --> 00:22:37,430 experiment box it holds about three to 559 00:22:42,490 --> 00:22:39,470 four different experiments at a time so 560 00:22:45,010 --> 00:22:42,500 we designed it really specifically to be 561 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:45,020 modular we constantly every every we do 562 00:22:50,050 --> 00:22:47,210 our flight we get down we fix something 563 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:50,060 we put in a new experiment and it's part 564 00:22:54,940 --> 00:22:52,610 of our philosophy as a company that it's 565 00:22:58,180 --> 00:22:54,950 important to iterate early and iterate 566 00:23:00,630 --> 00:22:58,190 often so it's probably too that credit 567 00:23:03,490 --> 00:23:00,640 that we have Hardware in space only a 568 00:23:06,670 --> 00:23:03,500 year after kicking off the actual flight 569 00:23:09,850 --> 00:23:06,680 mission with NASA so iterating quickly 570 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:09,860 is important to us so we did like I said 571 00:23:13,690 --> 00:23:12,050 over three hours of total zero gravity 572 00:23:16,210 --> 00:23:13,700 time but we've tested dozens of 573 00:23:19,810 --> 00:23:16,220 different experiments and and tweak 574 00:23:22,450 --> 00:23:19,820 things as we go so that's the experiment 575 00:23:25,090 --> 00:23:22,460 box you'll see that it's really quick 576 00:23:27,970 --> 00:23:25,100 you get like 20 seconds of zero-g and 577 00:23:30,070 --> 00:23:27,980 then you're back into 2g and the way we 578 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:30,080 we figured it out we actually in the 579 00:23:34,630 --> 00:23:31,690 beginning we were we were building 580 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:34,640 software that would a motion sensors 581 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:36,410 that would turn the printer pause the 582 00:23:42,670 --> 00:23:39,770 printer between the 2g pull outs so they 583 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:42,680 would only print during 0g and we got 584 00:23:46,270 --> 00:23:44,210 some useful data but then we realized 585 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:46,280 that it would be way better if we could 586 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:48,170 just turn the printer on when we start 587 00:23:52,390 --> 00:23:50,450 flying and then turn it off when we land 588 00:23:54,700 --> 00:23:52,400 at the runway and just have the printer 589 00:23:57,250 --> 00:23:54,710 print the whole time without any problem 590 00:23:58,930 --> 00:23:57,260 so at the end of the day when we had 591 00:24:00,910 --> 00:23:58,940 figured out is a way to make these 592 00:24:03,580 --> 00:24:00,920 printers just operate in zero gravity 593 00:24:06,010 --> 00:24:03,590 but also in 2 g's and everywhere in 594 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:06,020 between so it's that's why I was saying 595 00:24:10,990 --> 00:24:08,170 earlier it's a very rugged printer that 596 00:24:13,510 --> 00:24:11,000 it was just part of our the way we 597 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:13,520 tested it was it was made it easier for 598 00:24:18,460 --> 00:24:16,250 us to do it that way but now we have we 599 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:18,470 call it gravity independent 3d printing 600 00:24:22,270 --> 00:24:20,450 it's not just a zero-g printer I like 601 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:22,280 that you can print anywhere and it 602 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:24,050 actually turns out to be really 603 00:24:30,130 --> 00:24:26,930 beneficial on our end because we have a 604 00:24:30,649 --> 00:24:30,140 3d printer in our lab that is basically 605 00:24:32,599 --> 00:24:30,659 I 606 00:24:37,039 --> 00:24:32,609 nicole the one on the space station and 607 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:37,049 because gravity doesn't really cause an 608 00:24:41,450 --> 00:24:39,450 issue in the printing process that means 609 00:24:43,729 --> 00:24:41,460 that anything we print in our lab should 610 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:43,739 be just the same as how prints on the 611 00:24:48,259 --> 00:24:45,450 space station so we have a really good 612 00:24:49,369 --> 00:24:48,269 comparison and it allows people to come 613 00:24:53,180 --> 00:24:49,379 in who want to print on Space Station 614 00:24:54,649 --> 00:24:53,190 try it out on our printer first cool 615 00:24:57,229 --> 00:24:54,659 okay we got a lot of questions coming in 616 00:24:58,969 --> 00:24:57,239 from the QA applet John Jonathan I'm 617 00:25:01,060 --> 00:24:58,979 going to get to your follow-up in just a 618 00:25:04,759 --> 00:25:01,070 minute but Rebecca Rodriguez is asking 619 00:25:06,769 --> 00:25:04,769 has regolith with additives been 620 00:25:10,239 --> 00:25:06,779 considered for feedstock in the long run 621 00:25:13,849 --> 00:25:10,249 is that part of the NASA vision oh 622 00:25:15,379 --> 00:25:13,859 that's a cool run Rebecca we you know 623 00:25:17,029 --> 00:25:15,389 it's definitely part of the maiden space 624 00:25:19,729 --> 00:25:17,039 decision and I would say it's part of 625 00:25:23,509 --> 00:25:19,739 NASA's as well you can find you can find 626 00:25:27,259 --> 00:25:23,519 some things NASA's done in terms of ice 627 00:25:28,609 --> 00:25:27,269 are you and and regular printing and 628 00:25:31,729 --> 00:25:28,619 things like that but I'll tell you a 629 00:25:33,619 --> 00:25:31,739 little bit about what we've done we a 630 00:25:35,899 --> 00:25:33,629 little over a year ago as we were 631 00:25:37,460 --> 00:25:35,909 building our 3d printer for space we we 632 00:25:40,369 --> 00:25:37,470 wondered could we make our printer 633 00:25:42,950 --> 00:25:40,379 actually print with regular so we took 634 00:25:44,389 --> 00:25:42,960 the basically the same exact printer 635 00:25:48,019 --> 00:25:44,399 that's on the space station and we 636 00:25:50,839 --> 00:25:48,029 modified it so that it could so they can 637 00:25:55,039 --> 00:25:50,849 print something of like a composite like 638 00:25:59,419 --> 00:25:55,049 a concrete but we used a lunar simulate 639 00:26:01,639 --> 00:25:59,429 so JSC 1a we mix it with with a binder 640 00:26:02,899 --> 00:26:01,649 and a binder that actually we could 641 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:02,909 produce on the moon if we were living 642 00:26:07,190 --> 00:26:05,369 there and then with a really small 643 00:26:10,310 --> 00:26:07,200 amount of water that theoretically you 644 00:26:12,529 --> 00:26:10,320 could harvest from lunar soil so the IDS 645 00:26:15,019 --> 00:26:12,539 completely is our are you is you get the 646 00:26:17,299 --> 00:26:15,029 dirt you get the you grow your your 647 00:26:19,249 --> 00:26:17,309 binder and you get the water and we we 648 00:26:22,039 --> 00:26:19,259 made our printer print those samples so 649 00:26:25,430 --> 00:26:22,049 um you know we've printed these really 650 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:25,440 little bricks basically of regolith but 651 00:26:29,299 --> 00:26:27,090 imagine just scale up the printer in 652 00:26:33,049 --> 00:26:29,309 size put it on the moon and and add some 653 00:26:35,299 --> 00:26:33,059 other subsystems to harvest resources 654 00:26:38,839 --> 00:26:35,309 and whatnot and we you have the ability 655 00:26:40,849 --> 00:26:38,849 to actually build you know bricks on the 656 00:26:43,730 --> 00:26:40,859 moon and we think that's cool because 657 00:26:46,250 --> 00:26:43,740 what this would enable is yeah 658 00:26:47,990 --> 00:26:46,260 robotic Commission get to the point 659 00:26:49,430 --> 00:26:48,000 where before you send humans you've 660 00:26:52,370 --> 00:26:49,440 already sent a robot that built them a 661 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:52,380 habitat that's amazing that's good 662 00:26:57,830 --> 00:26:56,010 question Rebecca thank you so Philip 663 00:26:59,930 --> 00:26:57,840 keen on the Q&A app is also asking 664 00:27:01,910 --> 00:26:59,940 question I'd like to know as well have 665 00:27:03,799 --> 00:27:01,920 you think hi Jason have you figured out 666 00:27:06,220 --> 00:27:03,809 the price for researchers to use the 667 00:27:09,460 --> 00:27:06,230 commercial printer when it gets there 668 00:27:14,540 --> 00:27:09,470 it's gonna cost to do use this thing 669 00:27:15,860 --> 00:27:14,550 sell a good question not surprised we 670 00:27:20,419 --> 00:27:15,870 know we know each other that's a rice 671 00:27:24,110 --> 00:27:20,429 field but yeah so you know him okay yes 672 00:27:26,299 --> 00:27:24,120 so this is this is one of those golden 673 00:27:29,570 --> 00:27:26,309 questions people people are ready to use 674 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:29,580 the printer we've got a lot of people 675 00:27:34,360 --> 00:27:31,770 actually kind of lined up with their 676 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:34,370 ideas and and and parts ready to print 677 00:27:41,180 --> 00:27:37,890 the pricing question is not public yet 678 00:27:44,690 --> 00:27:41,190 but what I can say is that it's that 679 00:27:47,030 --> 00:27:44,700 it's extremely reasonable we've it were 680 00:27:48,590 --> 00:27:47,040 definitely like at the end of the day 681 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:48,600 what we're doing and what we want to do 682 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:53,250 is make it so that a much larger group 683 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:55,050 of people have access to space than 684 00:27:59,150 --> 00:27:57,690 previously if we can't do that then we 685 00:28:01,669 --> 00:27:59,160 don't feel like we've accomplished our 686 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:01,679 mission because the at the end of the 687 00:28:06,950 --> 00:28:04,890 day space to is is pretty prohibitive 688 00:28:10,220 --> 00:28:06,960 it's expensive it's costly it's why it's 689 00:28:12,710 --> 00:28:10,230 largely been a government-run industry 690 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:12,720 but we feel like if we can if we can 691 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:14,490 make it more accessible we'll start to 692 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:16,290 see innovation happen like we haven't 693 00:28:21,980 --> 00:28:19,290 seen before in space so for all the 694 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:21,990 individuals the researchers the small 695 00:28:27,410 --> 00:28:24,090 companies out there using the printer 696 00:28:29,210 --> 00:28:27,420 will not be you know it will be within 697 00:28:31,580 --> 00:28:29,220 the cost range that that can be 698 00:28:33,950 --> 00:28:31,590 affording okay well I don't related note 699 00:28:35,810 --> 00:28:33,960 then it would seem to me like you're 700 00:28:37,310 --> 00:28:35,820 going to have to do kind of like what we 701 00:28:38,419 --> 00:28:37,320 do at the Institute for deciding who 702 00:28:40,910 --> 00:28:38,429 gets to use the Hubble Space Telescope 703 00:28:42,919 --> 00:28:40,920 we have a time allocation committee wut 704 00:28:45,049 --> 00:28:42,929 m8 way there certain criterion that the 705 00:28:47,330 --> 00:28:45,059 scientists use to decide what what to 706 00:28:49,310 --> 00:28:47,340 give Hubble time to what are you going 707 00:28:51,020 --> 00:28:49,320 to do how are you going to decide who 708 00:28:54,250 --> 00:28:51,030 gets to use it what are the criterion 709 00:28:57,470 --> 00:28:54,260 like any have you thought about that yet 710 00:29:00,799 --> 00:28:57,480 uh yeah we're we're actually working 711 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:00,809 nasa work with NASA for most of these 712 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:02,970 things and this one's a pretty important 713 00:29:11,030 --> 00:29:08,370 one because you know nASA has you know 714 00:29:12,110 --> 00:29:11,040 lots of processes for what can fly on 715 00:29:16,130 --> 00:29:12,120 the space station there's a lot of 716 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:16,140 safety processes there too so what we've 717 00:29:19,610 --> 00:29:17,850 had to do you know we've created a 718 00:29:22,789 --> 00:29:19,620 completely new way to get hardware there 719 00:29:25,039 --> 00:29:22,799 and the question that it has to be asked 720 00:29:26,750 --> 00:29:25,049 is well if you know if you want to send 721 00:29:28,460 --> 00:29:26,760 a wrench to the space station today that 722 00:29:31,370 --> 00:29:28,470 wrench has to go through testing on the 723 00:29:32,510 --> 00:29:31,380 ground it goes to a safety review panel 724 00:29:35,270 --> 00:29:32,520 who make sure it's safe for the 725 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:35,280 astronauts so what do you do when that 726 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:37,410 wrench is printed in space how do you 727 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:39,330 know that you actually printed the thing 728 00:29:44,750 --> 00:29:41,610 that you wanted to print so we've been 729 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:44,760 developing kind of a new process that we 730 00:29:48,830 --> 00:29:46,650 can that we work with NASA on to make 731 00:29:51,049 --> 00:29:48,840 sure that whatever we build is is the 732 00:29:52,850 --> 00:29:51,059 thing we want to build but it's that 733 00:29:56,570 --> 00:29:52,860 process it will start to build the queue 734 00:29:58,880 --> 00:29:56,580 of who gets who prints first but aside 735 00:30:02,930 --> 00:29:58,890 from that it's really like a lot of it 736 00:30:05,090 --> 00:30:02,940 is is you know first come for a servant 737 00:30:07,700 --> 00:30:05,100 way who comes to us and is ready to go 738 00:30:11,539 --> 00:30:07,710 and we have a queue of people lined up 739 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:11,549 ready to print so go ahead ready for you 740 00:30:17,510 --> 00:30:15,450 know open invitation to use the printer 741 00:30:20,270 --> 00:30:17,520 you you mentioned something that 742 00:30:22,460 --> 00:30:20,280 actually had a question about was when 743 00:30:24,620 --> 00:30:22,470 you're going to be printing things in 744 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:24,630 zero gravity of microgravity out there 745 00:30:31,220 --> 00:30:29,010 is it like how let's see what's the word 746 00:30:32,900 --> 00:30:31,230 I want to use here how accurate are you 747 00:30:34,970 --> 00:30:32,910 going to be able to rate it as I know 748 00:30:36,919 --> 00:30:34,980 when we're sending stuff up into space 749 00:30:38,030 --> 00:30:36,929 especially for science experiments we 750 00:30:40,970 --> 00:30:38,040 need to make sure that they're 751 00:30:42,260 --> 00:30:40,980 rigorously tested too yes withstand 752 00:30:43,940 --> 00:30:42,270 launch which you're going to be able to 753 00:30:46,010 --> 00:30:43,950 get through but to make sure that it's 754 00:30:47,539 --> 00:30:46,020 actually scientifically accurate for 755 00:30:49,970 --> 00:30:47,549 what you're going to be using it for 756 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:49,980 right now are you just looking for you 757 00:30:54,799 --> 00:30:52,770 know a scaffolding or something I like 758 00:30:57,289 --> 00:30:54,809 that more rugged and then in the future 759 00:30:59,299 --> 00:30:57,299 be able to more fine-tuned it or is 760 00:31:01,549 --> 00:30:59,309 there a way that you'll be able to rate 761 00:31:06,110 --> 00:31:01,559 it for different scientific levels of 762 00:31:08,899 --> 00:31:06,120 accuracy yeah the answer is is yes the 763 00:31:11,450 --> 00:31:08,909 uh you know there's a couple ways to 764 00:31:13,100 --> 00:31:11,460 look at we have there's we have a 765 00:31:15,260 --> 00:31:13,110 since we control the printer from the 766 00:31:17,450 --> 00:31:15,270 ground we have the ability to control a 767 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:17,460 lot of the settings so in terms of 768 00:31:21,980 --> 00:31:20,130 quality resolution things like that we 769 00:31:25,100 --> 00:31:21,990 have control over that so depending on 770 00:31:29,060 --> 00:31:25,110 the demands of that part we can control 771 00:31:30,590 --> 00:31:29,070 how well it prints and and so on um but 772 00:31:33,889 --> 00:31:30,600 it's important to remember that this is 773 00:31:35,389 --> 00:31:33,899 the first step I mean this is like the 774 00:31:37,940 --> 00:31:35,399 tip of the iceberg for space 775 00:31:39,740 --> 00:31:37,950 manufacturing so as made in space moves 776 00:31:41,510 --> 00:31:39,750 forward with technology development it 777 00:31:44,090 --> 00:31:41,520 will get better and better and better so 778 00:31:47,060 --> 00:31:44,100 today it does a percentage of things 779 00:31:48,950 --> 00:31:47,070 NASA estimated that this printer can do 780 00:31:50,380 --> 00:31:48,960 thirty percent of all the parks that 781 00:31:53,690 --> 00:31:50,390 have already broken on the space station 782 00:31:55,970 --> 00:31:53,700 so actually a surprisingly good number 783 00:31:58,639 --> 00:31:55,980 of things could be fixed with a 3d 784 00:32:00,200 --> 00:31:58,649 printer like this but but we're moving 785 00:32:01,639 --> 00:32:00,210 forward towards you know much more than 786 00:32:05,060 --> 00:32:01,649 that percentage and we want to get to 787 00:32:07,510 --> 00:32:05,070 the point where you know that's not just 788 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:07,520 for fixing and upkeep and crew 789 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:11,010 utilization is for experimenters to 790 00:32:14,690 --> 00:32:12,570 build better experiments you know today 791 00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:14,700 we when we put an experiment on the 792 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:16,110 space station we have to launch it 793 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:17,730 already hoping that it just works 794 00:32:21,409 --> 00:32:19,770 because if it doesn't it would cost 795 00:32:23,539 --> 00:32:21,419 millions of dollars ever to launch the 796 00:32:25,490 --> 00:32:23,549 next version so we were working with 797 00:32:27,649 --> 00:32:25,500 experimenters now to design their 798 00:32:29,450 --> 00:32:27,659 experiments so that they're already 3d 799 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:29,460 printed so that when something changes 800 00:32:34,220 --> 00:32:32,370 if you need a larger microfluidic 801 00:32:36,350 --> 00:32:34,230 channel or you need a lot of you know a 802 00:32:37,669 --> 00:32:36,360 different size petri dish or so on you 803 00:32:39,889 --> 00:32:37,679 print that out after you've already 804 00:32:41,740 --> 00:32:39,899 tested the first one so enabling 805 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:41,750 iteration to happen for science is 806 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:44,370 obviously the the key towards 807 00:32:49,430 --> 00:32:47,010 breakthrough and it's those things that 808 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:49,440 we want to you know make happen I was 809 00:32:53,779 --> 00:32:51,690 going to say that you know in discussion 810 00:32:55,909 --> 00:32:53,789 astronomers have to think in very long 811 00:32:58,039 --> 00:32:55,919 timescales about building new telescopes 812 00:33:00,680 --> 00:32:58,049 that are going to go in space and the 813 00:33:03,500 --> 00:33:00,690 thought of at least 3d printing part of 814 00:33:05,210 --> 00:33:03,510 these parts for those telescopes and 815 00:33:06,950 --> 00:33:05,220 also refurbishment because we're how 816 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:06,960 will people so we love the idea of 817 00:33:11,330 --> 00:33:09,450 having a telescope you can refurbish so 818 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:11,340 it's very much of interest to the 819 00:33:16,940 --> 00:33:14,610 astronomical community on very relevant 820 00:33:19,639 --> 00:33:16,950 to the humble James Webb at last 821 00:33:21,950 --> 00:33:19,649 community but another thing that you 822 00:33:24,740 --> 00:33:21,960 made me think of is I know you're not 823 00:33:26,210 --> 00:33:24,750 doing it today but but remember 824 00:33:28,610 --> 00:33:26,220 we first said we were going to go to 825 00:33:31,100 --> 00:33:28,620 space remember how they said oh the 826 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:31,110 stuff you manufacture and space is going 827 00:33:35,990 --> 00:33:34,290 to be like amazing compared to what is 828 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:36,000 made on the ground because it won't be 829 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:40,050 constrained by gravity so I if you guys 830 00:33:45,470 --> 00:33:43,050 had discussions of things that could be 831 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:45,480 manufactured that possibly could be of 832 00:33:51,290 --> 00:33:48,330 use to people on the ground that would 833 00:33:52,940 --> 00:33:51,300 be better manufactured in debate number 834 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:52,950 we're supposed to all have bald perfect 835 00:33:56,900 --> 00:33:54,930 ball bearings because they working 836 00:33:59,120 --> 00:33:56,910 perfectly man your final its face 837 00:34:02,600 --> 00:33:59,130 remember that I mean I'm showing my age 838 00:34:06,980 --> 00:34:02,610 but no you're I guess mine to them 839 00:34:09,230 --> 00:34:06,990 because I remember that that is a that's 840 00:34:12,909 --> 00:34:09,240 always been kind of one of the biggest 841 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:12,919 things for us was to figure out not just 842 00:34:18,110 --> 00:34:15,690 not just what can we build in space 4 843 00:34:21,980 --> 00:34:18,120 space but what can we build in space for 844 00:34:23,869 --> 00:34:21,990 Earth and um there's definitely some 845 00:34:25,580 --> 00:34:23,879 really interesting things there you know 846 00:34:28,700 --> 00:34:25,590 obviously like you know ball bearings 847 00:34:31,430 --> 00:34:28,710 cool example but what are the things 848 00:34:33,260 --> 00:34:31,440 that you can't that you can actually use 849 00:34:35,990 --> 00:34:33,270 zero gravity to your advantage to build 850 00:34:37,909 --> 00:34:36,000 um not needing you know not needing 851 00:34:40,850 --> 00:34:37,919 things like support structure as as an 852 00:34:42,980 --> 00:34:40,860 example we've had we've had a lot of 853 00:34:46,190 --> 00:34:42,990 interests actually from people coming to 854 00:34:48,580 --> 00:34:46,200 us with ideas there most of them you 855 00:34:51,710 --> 00:34:48,590 know we we sign a lot of you know 856 00:34:54,050 --> 00:34:51,720 agreements with these groups you know 857 00:34:56,869 --> 00:34:54,060 who only talked about their ideas one of 858 00:34:58,430 --> 00:34:56,879 the more interesting ones that i can say 859 00:35:01,790 --> 00:34:58,440 a little bit about was had to do with 860 00:35:04,370 --> 00:35:01,800 fuel cell technology somebody had found 861 00:35:07,130 --> 00:35:04,380 a way to make more efficient fuel cells 862 00:35:09,950 --> 00:35:07,140 if they were manufactured in zoo and 863 00:35:13,580 --> 00:35:09,960 then bringing those parts down so so we 864 00:35:16,310 --> 00:35:13,590 think there's probably time will tell I 865 00:35:18,530 --> 00:35:16,320 think but as we as we get the machines 866 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:18,540 operating and start to learn exactly you 867 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:19,890 know the correct material and 868 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:23,130 resolutions and so on we'll see that 869 00:35:27,620 --> 00:35:26,130 happen okay i want to get over to 870 00:35:30,950 --> 00:35:27,630 youtube there's some comments coming in 871 00:35:33,290 --> 00:35:30,960 Craig Landon is asking any ideas as to 872 00:35:36,350 --> 00:35:33,300 how any of these materials might perform 873 00:35:38,180 --> 00:35:36,360 in solar radiation anything outside the 874 00:35:40,339 --> 00:35:38,190 ISS that is similar in 875 00:35:42,950 --> 00:35:40,349 position or due to be tested so how does 876 00:35:45,349 --> 00:35:42,960 this how does this stuff work out in 877 00:35:50,690 --> 00:35:45,359 space i mean the ring with irradiated 878 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:50,700 environment yep um so this the the 879 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:54,450 printer itself is it stays inside of the 880 00:36:00,260 --> 00:35:57,690 space station so it operates it you know 881 00:36:01,579 --> 00:36:00,270 in the the atmosphere of the space 882 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:01,589 station at the pressure and the 883 00:36:07,339 --> 00:36:04,770 temperature and things like that so it's 884 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:07,349 a you know for the sake of developing a 885 00:36:12,099 --> 00:36:08,970 printer that works in space we had to 886 00:36:14,780 --> 00:36:12,109 solve zero gravity it's the main problem 887 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:14,790 but it's it's really the question is 888 00:36:19,490 --> 00:36:16,890 really you know how do you build parts 889 00:36:22,190 --> 00:36:19,500 that you can then take out into space so 890 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:22,200 we've you know right now the first 891 00:36:28,069 --> 00:36:24,930 printer does abs and we all know that 892 00:36:30,319 --> 00:36:28,079 ABS out gases so can what can actually 893 00:36:31,849 --> 00:36:30,329 put out in space it was there was a bee 894 00:36:33,589 --> 00:36:31,859 acid you know if it's if it's out 895 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:33,599 gassing too much maybe you don't use it 896 00:36:38,569 --> 00:36:36,290 for very many things so that's why we 897 00:36:40,910 --> 00:36:38,579 we've been working for our second 898 00:36:42,980 --> 00:36:40,920 printer that launches next year the 899 00:36:46,190 --> 00:36:42,990 ability to do new types of materials so 900 00:36:48,349 --> 00:36:46,200 we have space qualified polymers and 901 00:36:49,819 --> 00:36:48,359 polymer composites that we can we can 902 00:36:53,390 --> 00:36:49,829 manufacture with and take them out and 903 00:36:54,559 --> 00:36:53,400 they'll work just fine so and that's you 904 00:36:56,630 --> 00:36:54,569 know there's there's still a lot of 905 00:36:58,760 --> 00:36:56,640 testing there you can do we've done a 906 00:37:00,200 --> 00:36:58,770 lot of testing the lab but there's some 907 00:37:02,450 --> 00:37:00,210 things you just can't actually know 908 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:02,460 until you get into the actual space 909 00:37:09,260 --> 00:37:06,810 environment to test it out okay so let 910 00:37:10,670 --> 00:37:09,270 me get it let me get to back to the Q&A 911 00:37:12,710 --> 00:37:10,680 app we have jonathan peters he had a 912 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:12,720 follow-up question to his what did you 913 00:37:18,170 --> 00:37:15,930 use to make a stuff out of and he goes 914 00:37:20,089 --> 00:37:18,180 are there plans to test physical 915 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:20,099 strength durability of objects printed 916 00:37:28,069 --> 00:37:25,530 in zero-g in different gravities um well 917 00:37:30,559 --> 00:37:28,079 what I feel like what I can say is we've 918 00:37:33,980 --> 00:37:30,569 taken the printers not just on the 919 00:37:36,380 --> 00:37:33,990 zero-gravity parabolas with NASA but 920 00:37:38,870 --> 00:37:36,390 we've also done lunar and Martian so the 921 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:38,880 art printer itself actually already is 922 00:37:44,630 --> 00:37:42,810 designed for on the moon and on Mars ok 923 00:37:47,569 --> 00:37:44,640 young good question thanks Jonathan 924 00:37:50,390 --> 00:37:47,579 Phillip keen is back and he's also 925 00:37:52,069 --> 00:37:50,400 asking you have you seen the news that 926 00:37:54,049 --> 00:37:52,079 ISA that ISA will be 927 00:37:55,849 --> 00:37:54,059 testing metal casting machines on a 928 00:37:57,410 --> 00:37:55,859 sounding rocket looks like they want to 929 00:38:00,769 --> 00:37:57,420 manufacture titanium parts and 930 00:38:06,699 --> 00:38:00,779 microgravity too yeah interesting stuff 931 00:38:08,839 --> 00:38:06,709 so so you know like any other good idea 932 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:08,849 there's always going to be more than one 933 00:38:12,380 --> 00:38:10,890 group that that wants to pursue it and I 934 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:12,390 think that's important to see the 935 00:38:18,589 --> 00:38:15,930 technology advanced quickly because you 936 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:18,599 know we started this company because we 937 00:38:24,019 --> 00:38:22,170 want humans living in space so the more 938 00:38:25,910 --> 00:38:24,029 people trying to focus on solving those 939 00:38:28,219 --> 00:38:25,920 problems better we've talked a lot with 940 00:38:31,519 --> 00:38:28,229 ISA I you know our goals really align 941 00:38:33,140 --> 00:38:31,529 well with them that for instance the 942 00:38:34,009 --> 00:38:33,150 printer that we're putting on this that 943 00:38:35,479 --> 00:38:34,019 you know the printer on the space 944 00:38:38,329 --> 00:38:35,489 station today and then definitely the 945 00:38:40,699 --> 00:38:38,339 next one is designed for anyone to use 946 00:38:43,069 --> 00:38:40,709 so that definitely goes for all the 947 00:38:45,949 --> 00:38:43,079 other space agencies already on on Space 948 00:38:51,579 --> 00:38:45,959 Station so we'll see you know II cuzn 949 00:38:54,499 --> 00:38:51,589 and Jackson and so on cool okay so um 950 00:38:55,940 --> 00:38:54,509 Eric charland is commented also he says 951 00:38:57,319 --> 00:38:55,950 gotta admire the patience of these guys 952 00:38:59,989 --> 00:38:57,329 would take me a half a second after 953 00:39:01,249 --> 00:38:59,999 receiving it to turn on a 3d printer so 954 00:39:02,779 --> 00:39:01,259 I guess that he's talked about the 955 00:39:05,180 --> 00:39:02,789 patience of the astronauts a they have 956 00:39:08,779 --> 00:39:05,190 to have to wait for the cows laughingly 957 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:08,789 we actually video you can watch a reid 958 00:39:12,559 --> 00:39:11,249 wiseman right before he launched and he 959 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:12,569 you know he's up there right now so he's 960 00:39:16,759 --> 00:39:14,130 likely the one to operate the printer 961 00:39:19,849 --> 00:39:16,769 and he was so excited about it he in 962 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:19,859 this interview he says you know NASA 963 00:39:26,559 --> 00:39:21,930 better be careful because we're gonna 964 00:39:29,420 --> 00:39:26,569 use up all the ink he's a ball today 965 00:39:31,549 --> 00:39:29,430 that's good yeah I gotta you know to 966 00:39:32,900 --> 00:39:31,559 follow up on a comment that or the what 967 00:39:34,459 --> 00:39:32,910 carol was saying about you know 968 00:39:35,809 --> 00:39:34,469 astronomers wanting you know excited 969 00:39:37,939 --> 00:39:35,819 being excited about using this i mean 970 00:39:39,739 --> 00:39:37,949 already we're talking about you know 971 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:39,749 after jwst the James Webb Space 972 00:39:46,999 --> 00:39:42,930 Telescope launching these giant 8 meter 973 00:39:49,249 --> 00:39:47,009 and 16 meter telescopes um I wonder you 974 00:39:50,839 --> 00:39:49,259 know for me I know that's the far future 975 00:39:54,349 --> 00:39:50,849 but that would be the kind of thing that 976 00:39:56,059 --> 00:39:54,359 I think it would excite me about this as 977 00:39:59,120 --> 00:39:56,069 well as not only can we go into space 978 00:40:00,410 --> 00:39:59,130 and we can you know manufacture parts 979 00:40:02,329 --> 00:40:00,420 and things like that up there and live 980 00:40:04,580 --> 00:40:02,339 off the land as you say but we can also 981 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:04,590 put things up in space that are 982 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:06,450 really hard to put up there like 16 983 00:40:15,110 --> 00:40:08,970 meter telescopes just being able to 984 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:15,120 print one out point would be yep so you 985 00:40:20,750 --> 00:40:18,330 look for the history of humans putting 986 00:40:22,610 --> 00:40:20,760 things into space we've only we've done 987 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:22,620 it exactly the same way we've always put 988 00:40:27,290 --> 00:40:25,410 things on the top of chemical rockets 989 00:40:29,210 --> 00:40:27,300 and launch them there that obviously 990 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:29,220 puts the you know a lot of burden 991 00:40:33,290 --> 00:40:30,930 there's like it we already mentioned 992 00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:33,300 there's the constraints of the G load 993 00:40:37,610 --> 00:40:35,250 and the vibration load but the other 994 00:40:41,540 --> 00:40:37,620 thing is we're constrained to the volume 995 00:40:43,610 --> 00:40:41,550 of the fairing of spacecraft so so we've 996 00:40:45,980 --> 00:40:43,620 reached we've done a lot in terms of 997 00:40:48,380 --> 00:40:45,990 getting really clever about how we build 998 00:40:51,140 --> 00:40:48,390 things that can fit into a rocket and 999 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:51,150 then deploy open well that's yet JW seas 1000 00:40:55,940 --> 00:40:52,650 are not prime example of that it had 1001 00:40:57,980 --> 00:40:55,950 them all folded up origami yeah one of 1002 00:41:00,350 --> 00:40:57,990 the best examples so but we've still 1003 00:41:03,710 --> 00:41:00,360 reached in in many ways to physical 1004 00:41:05,930 --> 00:41:03,720 limits of what we can do so this the 1005 00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:05,940 idea of space manufacturing gets around 1006 00:41:10,940 --> 00:41:08,730 that problem entirely we we can remove 1007 00:41:14,390 --> 00:41:10,950 the constraint of the launch fairing and 1008 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:14,400 start to build things that don't have to 1009 00:41:18,770 --> 00:41:16,770 rely on deployment mechanisms and and 1010 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:18,780 other things like that just build the 1011 00:41:23,240 --> 00:41:21,090 the large shapes that you needed to 1012 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:23,250 begin with so you said they're not 1013 00:41:27,590 --> 00:41:25,050 starting yet you're waiting for your 1014 00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:27,600 turn in the glove box um how are you 1015 00:41:31,100 --> 00:41:28,800 going to let people how are we going to 1016 00:41:32,990 --> 00:41:31,110 know that this is but you know what's 1017 00:41:35,180 --> 00:41:33,000 the best way for us to keep in track 1018 00:41:37,810 --> 00:41:35,190 keep track of what what's going on in 1019 00:41:41,150 --> 00:41:37,820 the status is well uh twitter feed 1020 00:41:43,970 --> 00:41:41,160 follow our twitter i'm at made in space 1021 00:41:47,210 --> 00:41:43,980 we we're keeping keeping everybody up to 1022 00:41:50,090 --> 00:41:47,220 date there and our facebook it's a we 1023 00:41:53,210 --> 00:41:50,100 are made in space so our social media is 1024 00:41:55,910 --> 00:41:53,220 is really um you know when we hear news 1025 00:41:58,070 --> 00:41:55,920 we share it so that's probably number 1026 00:42:01,420 --> 00:41:58,080 one NASA is doing a lot of work there to 1027 00:42:04,070 --> 00:42:01,430 to to let everybody know about this so 1028 00:42:06,620 --> 00:42:04,080 they'll be you know we expect that it 1029 00:42:09,410 --> 00:42:06,630 will be a good amount of heads up before 1030 00:42:13,550 --> 00:42:09,420 the printer starts printing this is this 1031 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:13,560 is a it's an incredibly historical event 1032 00:42:18,260 --> 00:42:17,130 for Humanity there's it's been up you 1033 00:42:20,750 --> 00:42:18,270 know this will be the first 1034 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:20,760 time as a species we've ever made faq 1035 00:42:25,460 --> 00:42:23,010 shirt off a planet earth and we want 1036 00:42:28,580 --> 00:42:25,470 everybody to share in that occasion 1037 00:42:30,110 --> 00:42:28,590 because it's you know this is I think 1038 00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:30,120 it'll go down as a really important 1039 00:42:34,250 --> 00:42:32,250 piece in history I agree in Jonathan I 1040 00:42:35,540 --> 00:42:34,260 but Jonathan and Phillip are just you 1041 00:42:38,030 --> 00:42:35,550 guys are blowing up I thank you for all 1042 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:38,040 the comments uh so Jonathan's like is 1043 00:42:41,570 --> 00:42:39,450 the next I beat you to this one I think 1044 00:42:44,090 --> 00:42:41,580 jonathan is the next version going to be 1045 00:42:45,710 --> 00:42:44,100 able to print glassware and if so are we 1046 00:42:47,210 --> 00:42:45,720 expecting better telescopes and we just 1047 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:47,220 we just talked about this but what about 1048 00:42:50,590 --> 00:42:48,810 the glass part of it is that says that a 1049 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:50,600 material that perhaps is in the future 1050 00:42:55,940 --> 00:42:54,090 so um it's a pretty cool question there 1051 00:42:57,860 --> 00:42:55,950 the quit you know like there's a few 1052 00:43:01,150 --> 00:42:57,870 pieces of that if we want to talk about 1053 00:43:03,620 --> 00:43:01,160 optics you know printing optical element 1054 00:43:05,510 --> 00:43:03,630 you know that's a tricky problem we a 1055 00:43:08,060 --> 00:43:05,520 lot of what we've done as a company as 1056 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:08,070 we look at where technology is headed 1057 00:43:14,270 --> 00:43:11,610 and anticipate when it will be ready to 1058 00:43:17,630 --> 00:43:14,280 actually go into real applications so in 1059 00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:17,640 2010 we we realize that we could work on 1060 00:43:22,310 --> 00:43:20,250 this fdm style of 3d printing and get it 1061 00:43:24,980 --> 00:43:22,320 ready for space if you if you start 1062 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:24,990 looking at what's out there um you know 1063 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:27,930 in industry and research for optics type 1064 00:43:32,180 --> 00:43:29,610 of printing there's still a lot of 1065 00:43:34,790 --> 00:43:32,190 challenges to overcome but it will it 1066 00:43:36,410 --> 00:43:34,800 will it will get there and until them 1067 00:43:38,690 --> 00:43:36,420 there's always things that will have to 1068 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:38,700 launch that we just can't print up you 1069 00:43:43,730 --> 00:43:41,490 know and we can't print transistors and 1070 00:43:45,260 --> 00:43:43,740 and circuit boards and everything yet so 1071 00:43:47,060 --> 00:43:45,270 there's things that you have to launch 1072 00:43:50,450 --> 00:43:47,070 and they're things that you can print 1073 00:43:52,250 --> 00:43:50,460 over time though our view is that one 1074 00:43:54,980 --> 00:43:52,260 day everything in space will be made in 1075 00:43:56,420 --> 00:43:54,990 space and won't every at every point in 1076 00:43:58,520 --> 00:43:56,430 time there'll be something that you 1077 00:44:00,890 --> 00:43:58,530 don't have to launch because you can 3d 1078 00:44:02,630 --> 00:44:00,900 print it so if you can print it there 1079 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:02,640 you will it will just make more sense 1080 00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:04,410 and with the printer on the space 1081 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:05,730 station day there's already something 1082 00:44:09,710 --> 00:44:07,770 that can be printed it's actually a lot 1083 00:44:11,240 --> 00:44:09,720 of things those things don't have to get 1084 00:44:13,670 --> 00:44:11,250 launched anymore and the second printer 1085 00:44:15,980 --> 00:44:13,680 will expand upon that and so on so I 1086 00:44:18,380 --> 00:44:15,990 hope it's soon that we see you know 1087 00:44:21,410 --> 00:44:18,390 optics and optical elements and things 1088 00:44:24,140 --> 00:44:21,420 like that but it's a lot of development 1089 00:44:26,180 --> 00:44:24,150 needed well personally I was gonna I was 1090 00:44:27,710 --> 00:44:26,190 just going to interject that that once 1091 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:27,720 you've decided that you can manufacture 1092 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:30,690 in space there's no reason to you know 1093 00:44:33,980 --> 00:44:32,130 restrict yourself to one 1094 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:33,990 sheen you can have a machine that does 1095 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:35,850 metals and another one that does sort of 1096 00:44:40,580 --> 00:44:37,650 plastic materials so that you can 1097 00:44:43,490 --> 00:44:40,590 optimize the machine what you understand 1098 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:43,500 the zero g or Moulton you know if G 1099 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:46,170 independent stuff you can think about oh 1100 00:44:49,550 --> 00:44:47,850 I need metal parts over here and they 1101 00:44:51,500 --> 00:44:49,560 need plastic parts over here and I need 1102 00:44:53,750 --> 00:44:51,510 chocolate over here and then you can 1103 00:44:55,790 --> 00:44:53,760 print what you want I'm always a jungle 1104 00:45:00,580 --> 00:44:55,800 yeah i would i would want one that 1105 00:45:02,660 --> 00:45:00,590 prince chief editors yeah you would 1106 00:45:04,570 --> 00:45:02,670 especially if i'm in Mars and i haven't 1107 00:45:07,310 --> 00:45:04,580 had a had a cheeseburger in a while 1108 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:07,320 Scott I want to meet me ask you am I am 1109 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:09,690 I missing any comments or questions here 1110 00:45:14,330 --> 00:45:12,570 that I think we've got a all of them 1111 00:45:16,460 --> 00:45:14,340 taking care for the most part of ones 1112 00:45:20,780 --> 00:45:16,470 that we've already answered before they 1113 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:20,790 ask them so yeah yeah okay um let's see 1114 00:45:26,930 --> 00:45:23,970 ask about the bit so we had a video but 1115 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:26,940 we had some other imagery oh yeah we 1116 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:29,610 have it would it would be nice to take a 1117 00:45:33,470 --> 00:45:31,890 look at some of those yeah if you can 1118 00:45:36,820 --> 00:45:33,480 can you put up some of those and what 1119 00:45:40,010 --> 00:45:36,830 have Jason talk about design photos 1120 00:45:42,980 --> 00:45:40,020 moment it shot up for the first printer 1121 00:45:44,900 --> 00:45:42,990 it's a nice like you can see some 1122 00:45:48,500 --> 00:45:44,910 hardware in the background and yeah 1123 00:45:50,900 --> 00:45:48,510 there it is so this is this is actually 1124 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:50,910 the printer in the foreground that's the 1125 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:54,170 printer that is on Space Station today 1126 00:45:59,300 --> 00:45:56,970 and then in the background is the 1127 00:46:01,730 --> 00:45:59,310 microgravity science glovebox the msg 1128 00:46:03,500 --> 00:46:01,740 that's what we that's where what the 1129 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:03,510 printer goes in the space station so 1130 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:06,090 this picture was taken at NASA Marshall 1131 00:46:13,370 --> 00:46:10,410 flight Marshall Flight Center so at 1132 00:46:15,410 --> 00:46:13,380 Marshall that's that's where our main 1133 00:46:18,230 --> 00:46:15,420 contract goes through it's our 1134 00:46:20,660 --> 00:46:18,240 partnership with NASA and we work really 1135 00:46:23,330 --> 00:46:20,670 hand-in-hand with NASA Marshall to 1136 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:23,340 develop this entire first 3d printer 1137 00:46:29,090 --> 00:46:27,690 program so made in space does the design 1138 00:46:32,030 --> 00:46:29,100 and development of the hardware and 1139 00:46:35,510 --> 00:46:32,040 software electronics and so on and then 1140 00:46:37,580 --> 00:46:35,520 NASA Marshall helped with the testing 1141 00:46:40,190 --> 00:46:37,590 and the qualification of the system as 1142 00:46:42,470 --> 00:46:40,200 well as that's where the payload 1143 00:46:45,660 --> 00:46:42,480 Operations Center is for Space Station 1144 00:46:49,770 --> 00:46:45,670 so we are able to go there and test 1145 00:46:53,240 --> 00:46:49,780 out the printer in the simulated msg 1146 00:46:55,530 --> 00:46:53,250 scenario so really good partnership and 1147 00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:55,540 it's one of those examples of how 1148 00:47:00,839 --> 00:46:57,490 government and commercial works really 1149 00:47:02,730 --> 00:47:00,849 well together okay one show there we go 1150 00:47:07,410 --> 00:47:02,740 here's another one now here's a close-up 1151 00:47:09,180 --> 00:47:07,420 of of the printer actually looks really 1152 00:47:12,030 --> 00:47:09,190 close up on my screen I can only see 1153 00:47:14,490 --> 00:47:12,040 part of it but uh so let me pop it out a 1154 00:47:18,059 --> 00:47:14,500 couple things here on the left is a 1155 00:47:20,490 --> 00:47:18,069 smaller box and there you go so that the 1156 00:47:23,460 --> 00:47:20,500 box on the left is our electronics and 1157 00:47:27,240 --> 00:47:23,470 computer that's a it's our power supply 1158 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:27,250 it's the notes that the all the 1159 00:47:31,980 --> 00:47:29,770 electronics and the sensor packages and 1160 00:47:35,490 --> 00:47:31,990 things like that that's what plugs into 1161 00:47:36,839 --> 00:47:35,500 the glove box and then multiple then we 1162 00:47:38,940 --> 00:47:36,849 have two ports that plug into the 1163 00:47:41,549 --> 00:47:38,950 printer so you can see the switch on the 1164 00:47:42,839 --> 00:47:41,559 back left of the electronics box that 1165 00:47:44,819 --> 00:47:42,849 like I was saying it's the only switch 1166 00:47:48,089 --> 00:47:44,829 on the entire printer the entire thing 1167 00:47:50,670 --> 00:47:48,099 is definitely looks a little special 1168 00:47:53,730 --> 00:47:50,680 compared to a printer here you're used 1169 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:53,740 to seeing the surface it's made of 1170 00:48:00,870 --> 00:47:56,410 aerospace grade aluminum that's coated 1171 00:48:03,660 --> 00:48:00,880 in nickel plated its nickel plated so 1172 00:48:06,089 --> 00:48:03,670 that that makes it safe to use on Space 1173 00:48:09,990 --> 00:48:06,099 Station it doesn't scratch it doesn't 1174 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:10,000 leak EMI um feedstock cartridge is that 1175 00:48:13,890 --> 00:48:12,010 box on the left of the printer that 1176 00:48:16,289 --> 00:48:13,900 comes in and out so it's replaceable and 1177 00:48:18,870 --> 00:48:16,299 then there's a door so the door has a 1178 00:48:20,309 --> 00:48:18,880 window and there's cameras it will look 1179 00:48:22,530 --> 00:48:20,319 through the window while we print but 1180 00:48:25,319 --> 00:48:22,540 the entire printer is is closed in so it 1181 00:48:27,089 --> 00:48:25,329 keeps the outgassing inside of there and 1182 00:48:31,140 --> 00:48:27,099 we who are environmental environmental 1183 00:48:33,030 --> 00:48:31,150 control inside the box great yep 1184 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:33,040 anything else we have do you have 1185 00:48:41,069 --> 00:48:38,650 anything else rkelly nope oh that's the 1186 00:48:46,530 --> 00:48:41,079 song yeah so let me know part coming off 1187 00:48:48,630 --> 00:48:46,540 a printer a basically the printer remove 1188 00:48:51,660 --> 00:48:48,640 is you know the entire print rate comes 1189 00:48:53,609 --> 00:48:51,670 in and out we've made every step along 1190 00:48:56,250 --> 00:48:53,619 the way we've worked with NASA to really 1191 00:48:58,800 --> 00:48:56,260 make it easy for the astronauts to use 1192 00:49:01,140 --> 00:48:58,810 and to reduce the time spent using so 1193 00:49:03,810 --> 00:49:01,150 what you know when we first started most 1194 00:49:05,610 --> 00:49:03,820 most people think while they build a 3d 1195 00:49:08,790 --> 00:49:05,620 printer for for the astronauts and let's 1196 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:08,800 have all these you know the gizmos and 1197 00:49:15,210 --> 00:49:12,010 all these good thing features but it 1198 00:49:17,340 --> 00:49:15,220 really had to be really simple the 1199 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:17,350 astronauts time is depending how you 1200 00:49:23,130 --> 00:49:19,090 look at it it's about fifty thousand 1201 00:49:25,700 --> 00:49:23,140 dollars an hour so making it complex and 1202 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:25,710 arby's not something we could do so 1203 00:49:31,710 --> 00:49:27,930 actually the printer is really easy 1204 00:49:34,170 --> 00:49:31,720 doesn't require calibration so Carol you 1205 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:34,180 know everything your your desktop 1206 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:35,170 printer you probably have to calibrate 1207 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:38,050 it make sure your Z alignments correct 1208 00:49:44,070 --> 00:49:40,570 and the print trays absolutely yeah we 1209 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:44,080 have stds we don't do that the printer 1210 00:49:49,500 --> 00:49:47,410 is just built to not need the 1211 00:49:51,450 --> 00:49:49,510 calibration it launches calibrated and 1212 00:49:53,610 --> 00:49:51,460 it will get its writ once they put it in 1213 00:49:56,100 --> 00:49:53,620 they'll turn it on and all they have to 1214 00:49:59,220 --> 00:49:56,110 do is plug it in turn it on and we do 1215 00:50:04,520 --> 00:49:59,230 everything else okay I so at the end of 1216 00:50:12,630 --> 00:50:09,830 without we printed it printed out oh 1217 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:12,640 yeah bill Keane's gotik Mickey mechanics 1218 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:14,170 a good point here when he comments and 1219 00:50:17,940 --> 00:50:16,330 you know traditionally glass and mirrors 1220 00:50:19,260 --> 00:50:17,950 have been made with gravity dependent 1221 00:50:20,820 --> 00:50:19,270 processes that's a good point the 1222 00:50:22,860 --> 00:50:20,830 figures and mirrors and things like that 1223 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:22,870 are all more or less dependent on 1224 00:50:28,620 --> 00:50:26,290 gravity and the release the process is 1225 00:50:30,570 --> 00:50:28,630 used to make those figures so that that 1226 00:50:33,330 --> 00:50:30,580 is going to be an interesting you don't 1227 00:50:35,430 --> 00:50:33,340 have to because the optical design if 1228 00:50:37,620 --> 00:50:35,440 you make a perfect optical design you 1229 00:50:41,010 --> 00:50:37,630 can have a perfect object the problem is 1230 00:50:43,770 --> 00:50:41,020 that designers have to worry about the 1231 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:43,780 gravity effect in the materials will sag 1232 00:50:48,540 --> 00:50:46,210 or whatever and so they accommodate that 1233 00:50:50,550 --> 00:50:48,550 in design but optical designers would 1234 00:50:52,860 --> 00:50:50,560 love to make something that's a perfect 1235 00:50:54,930 --> 00:50:52,870 optical design that doesn't sag out of 1236 00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:54,940 the materials made out of that's right a 1237 00:50:59,190 --> 00:50:57,610 wonderful really large telescope mirrors 1238 00:51:01,260 --> 00:50:59,200 like way ground-based telescopes and 1239 00:51:03,780 --> 00:51:01,270 stuff actually can flow a little bit I 1240 00:51:06,180 --> 00:51:03,790 remember a story I heard a long time ago 1241 00:51:07,140 --> 00:51:06,190 I don't know if this is urban legend I 1242 00:51:09,210 --> 00:51:07,150 have never been a mcdonald observatory 1243 00:51:11,610 --> 00:51:09,220 but there are actually bullet holes in 1244 00:51:12,059 --> 00:51:11,620 the primary mirror at McDonald's herba 1245 00:51:14,309 --> 00:51:12,069 Tory 1246 00:51:16,229 --> 00:51:14,319 we're and they it just didn't crack or 1247 00:51:18,779 --> 00:51:16,239 break the glass at all it just it just 1248 00:51:19,890 --> 00:51:18,789 went right through so interesting 1249 00:51:21,900 --> 00:51:19,900 interesting properties of glass 1250 00:51:26,009 --> 00:51:21,910 especially when you're really large so 1251 00:51:28,140 --> 00:51:26,019 that's a good point okay so um it so 1252 00:51:30,749 --> 00:51:28,150 what it you've told us a little bit I 1253 00:51:32,489 --> 00:51:30,759 given us a glimpse about about your 1254 00:51:34,319 --> 00:51:32,499 company and you've told us what you're 1255 00:51:36,959 --> 00:51:34,329 doing with 3d printing in the near term 1256 00:51:38,309 --> 00:51:36,969 what what do you what do you have in the 1257 00:51:40,109 --> 00:51:38,319 wings what else are you working on that 1258 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:40,119 you'd like us to know about and for the 1259 00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:43,690 lot for the distant future well look I 1260 00:51:49,319 --> 00:51:45,729 think what's most important and most 1261 00:51:51,449 --> 00:51:49,329 exciting is that is that we you know 1262 00:51:53,189 --> 00:51:51,459 from here on out they'll always be a new 1263 00:51:55,259 --> 00:51:53,199 way to get things into space aside from 1264 00:51:57,209 --> 00:51:55,269 launching them and for us that's 1265 00:52:00,120 --> 00:51:57,219 important because we want we want 1266 00:52:02,370 --> 00:52:00,130 everybody on the planet to use this 1267 00:52:05,969 --> 00:52:02,380 printer in a way if they can we want to 1268 00:52:07,650 --> 00:52:05,979 connect the world to space we want new 1269 00:52:10,170 --> 00:52:07,660 initiatives in space to be spawned 1270 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:10,180 because there's a new faster cheaper way 1271 00:52:16,229 --> 00:52:13,690 to get things there that's important for 1272 00:52:18,900 --> 00:52:16,239 us we've we've had you know some really 1273 00:52:22,349 --> 00:52:18,910 exciting ideas we've had people talking 1274 00:52:24,359 --> 00:52:22,359 to us about building cube sets with the 1275 00:52:26,609 --> 00:52:24,369 3d printer so imagine not needing to 1276 00:52:28,890 --> 00:52:26,619 build your cube sat on the ground and 1277 00:52:31,620 --> 00:52:28,900 said just having it built there and tell 1278 00:52:36,140 --> 00:52:31,630 us what cube SATs are oh yeah sorry so I 1279 00:52:41,489 --> 00:52:38,819 CubeSat it's it's a 10 centimeter cube 1280 00:52:44,609 --> 00:52:41,499 it's a small little satellite but packed 1281 00:52:46,620 --> 00:52:44,619 inside is the latest technology you know 1282 00:52:48,630 --> 00:52:46,630 keeping up with Moore's law in a way we 1283 00:52:50,699 --> 00:52:48,640 can everything that's in your cell phone 1284 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:50,709 could be a satellite so imagine putting 1285 00:52:56,009 --> 00:52:53,170 that technology into a little box and 1286 00:52:58,439 --> 00:52:56,019 putting in space it's what today there's 1287 00:53:01,289 --> 00:52:58,449 it's a revolution because of where that 1288 00:53:03,299 --> 00:53:01,299 technology's headed but it's still it's 1289 00:53:06,420 --> 00:53:03,309 still timely manner it's a very hands-on 1290 00:53:09,269 --> 00:53:06,430 manner to build even these really small 1291 00:53:11,789 --> 00:53:09,279 satellites and you know when I was in 1292 00:53:14,430 --> 00:53:11,799 college several years ago I built a keep 1293 00:53:16,620 --> 00:53:14,440 that just like a lot of aerospace 1294 00:53:18,089 --> 00:53:16,630 engineering students do it's really good 1295 00:53:20,339 --> 00:53:18,099 exercise to learn how to build 1296 00:53:23,910 --> 00:53:20,349 satellites but they never they never 1297 00:53:25,230 --> 00:53:23,920 really flew arzga roof today it's that's 1298 00:53:27,750 --> 00:53:25,240 starting to change EB SATs are 1299 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:27,760 flying a lot there's companies that are 1300 00:53:34,350 --> 00:53:30,970 launching you know in the hundreds of 1301 00:53:37,350 --> 00:53:34,360 cute sets in a year and that's changing 1302 00:53:39,570 --> 00:53:37,360 how we do satellites how we how we look 1303 00:53:42,900 --> 00:53:39,580 at our earth how we do science and space 1304 00:53:44,970 --> 00:53:42,910 and so on so one of the exciting things 1305 00:53:46,590 --> 00:53:44,980 is we could we can actually just build 1306 00:53:49,500 --> 00:53:46,600 those on the space station with the 1307 00:53:51,810 --> 00:53:49,510 printer so now what I'm excited about is 1308 00:53:53,940 --> 00:53:51,820 for the future students who instead of 1309 00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:53,950 spending a year building akita on the 1310 00:53:58,320 --> 00:53:55,570 ground they said spend all that time 1311 00:54:00,600 --> 00:53:58,330 designing a mission and have their boots 1312 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:00,610 at bill on the man really fast and 1313 00:54:04,650 --> 00:54:01,810 launched and then they get to do a 1314 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:04,660 mission and you know that's that's 1315 00:54:10,470 --> 00:54:08,650 actually possible now forth for anybody 1316 00:54:13,140 --> 00:54:10,480 to have their own space mission so 1317 00:54:16,890 --> 00:54:13,150 that's something that I see coming to 1318 00:54:18,870 --> 00:54:16,900 the zoo and and as a company you know we 1319 00:54:21,900 --> 00:54:18,880 what we've done is we've done a couple 1320 00:54:23,810 --> 00:54:21,910 things you we reduce earth dependency 1321 00:54:26,370 --> 00:54:23,820 for astronauts that's number one so 1322 00:54:28,290 --> 00:54:26,380 astron people in space today are less 1323 00:54:30,810 --> 00:54:28,300 dependent on earth they can when they 1324 00:54:33,770 --> 00:54:30,820 need something whether it's emergency 1325 00:54:36,330 --> 00:54:33,780 fix or a new tool or anything like that 1326 00:54:39,870 --> 00:54:36,340 the chances are it can actually be 3d 1327 00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:39,880 printed in space we don't need to launch 1328 00:54:44,190 --> 00:54:41,650 an entire rocket to bring them a new 1329 00:54:45,630 --> 00:54:44,200 wrench and that's important for Space 1330 00:54:49,500 --> 00:54:45,640 Station but it's absolutely necessary 1331 00:54:52,890 --> 00:54:49,510 for a Mars mission yeah we need if we 1332 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:52,900 really want to do a Mars mission or or 1333 00:54:58,170 --> 00:54:55,210 even a moon mission and put people in 1334 00:55:00,840 --> 00:54:58,180 the moon we need to get off of the 1335 00:55:03,420 --> 00:55:00,850 paradigm that the only way to do it is 1336 00:55:07,590 --> 00:55:03,430 to have the ability to keep relaunching 1337 00:55:09,720 --> 00:55:07,600 rockets so so our technology will always 1338 00:55:13,650 --> 00:55:09,730 be wherever there's humans in space from 1339 00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:13,660 here on out and and then well if along 1340 00:55:17,430 --> 00:55:15,850 with it anybody else on earth will be 1341 00:55:19,530 --> 00:55:17,440 able to go along because they'll be able 1342 00:55:23,910 --> 00:55:19,540 to send their things there you know at 1343 00:55:26,609 --> 00:55:23,920 the speed of light co Adam synergies 1344 00:55:28,050 --> 00:55:26,619 back and hey Adam he goes he's 1345 00:55:29,370 --> 00:55:28,060 confirming what I just said it's true 1346 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:29,380 there are several bullet holes in the 1347 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:30,490 primary mirror of the Large Telescope 1348 00:55:35,820 --> 00:55:33,490 and McDonald Observatory courtesy of a 1349 00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:35,830 crazy Texan employee in the seventies 1350 00:55:38,900 --> 00:55:37,570 yeah I don't recall who I heard it from 1351 00:55:40,339 --> 00:55:38,910 but yeah there's 1352 00:55:47,599 --> 00:55:40,349 right into them down the tube of the 1353 00:55:49,370 --> 00:55:47,609 telescope so it's absolutely sure all 1354 00:55:50,059 --> 00:55:49,380 right let's see here Scotty you want to 1355 00:55:52,579 --> 00:55:50,069 help me make sure I'm not missing 1356 00:55:54,470 --> 00:55:52,589 anybody Oh Phillip is commenting the VLT 1357 00:55:58,370 --> 00:55:54,480 mirrors float on magnets that's right a 1358 00:56:01,130 --> 00:55:58,380 very large telescope in in Chile let's 1359 00:56:02,329 --> 00:56:01,140 see jonathan peters is asking i wanna 1360 00:56:04,069 --> 00:56:02,339 get it to a couple more before we're 1361 00:56:06,829 --> 00:56:04,079 running out of time here is it possible 1362 00:56:10,490 --> 00:56:06,839 to print aerogel materials from this or 1363 00:56:12,529 --> 00:56:10,500 future devices yeah you know we probably 1364 00:56:15,049 --> 00:56:12,539 will see future devices do exotic 1365 00:56:18,650 --> 00:56:15,059 materials like aerogel and the the 1366 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:18,660 printers are Joe aerogel is awesome 1367 00:56:22,460 --> 00:56:20,970 you're is off you really got it like 1368 00:56:25,010 --> 00:56:22,470 Google and look at a picture of it 1369 00:56:27,380 --> 00:56:25,020 you'll probably think it's photoshopped 1370 00:56:31,039 --> 00:56:27,390 image but it's just this incredible 1371 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:31,049 material that's extremely light it can 1372 00:56:35,599 --> 00:56:34,410 it has really high you know temperatures 1373 00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:35,609 that it can withstand so that you'll 1374 00:56:40,549 --> 00:56:37,650 find a picture of a match burning 1375 00:56:42,620 --> 00:56:40,559 sitting on top of this stuff um but it's 1376 00:56:44,980 --> 00:56:42,630 you know works really well for for 1377 00:56:48,049 --> 00:56:44,990 things like insulators and so on so 1378 00:56:50,420 --> 00:56:48,059 exotic materials are are always in the 1379 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:50,430 realm of where research is for 3d 1380 00:56:56,990 --> 00:56:52,770 printing the printer that's on the space 1381 00:56:59,059 --> 00:56:57,000 station today does thermoplastics so and 1382 00:57:02,329 --> 00:56:59,069 a thermoplastic is a type of plastic 1383 00:57:04,460 --> 00:57:02,339 that you can melt and form and then ream 1384 00:57:08,769 --> 00:57:04,470 ill and that's that's kind of important 1385 00:57:11,660 --> 00:57:08,779 for the way that process works cool 1386 00:57:14,660 --> 00:57:11,670 let's see jonathan peters is also 1387 00:57:16,609 --> 00:57:14,670 commenting in space chocolate and space 1388 00:57:20,450 --> 00:57:16,619 cheeburger don't forget space g bugga 1389 00:57:22,430 --> 00:57:20,460 you can manufacture last one you can 1390 00:57:25,700 --> 00:57:22,440 manufacture plastic lenses with stereo 1391 00:57:28,430 --> 00:57:25,710 lithography which is fluid printing good 1392 00:57:30,319 --> 00:57:28,440 for telescopes maybe yep yeah good i 1393 00:57:33,799 --> 00:57:30,329 think it's that you know that my little 1394 00:57:36,410 --> 00:57:33,809 comment there is well absolutely but 1395 00:57:38,180 --> 00:57:36,420 we've when we started this process we 1396 00:57:39,740 --> 00:57:38,190 our goal was how can we get 1397 00:57:43,010 --> 00:57:39,750 manufacturing the space of the quickest 1398 00:57:46,010 --> 00:57:43,020 and and i also have an impact so we 1399 00:57:49,039 --> 00:57:46,020 identified that the tight this fused 1400 00:57:50,779 --> 00:57:49,049 deposition modeling or fdm style 3d 1401 00:57:52,700 --> 00:57:50,789 printing it's really an extrusion based 1402 00:57:55,250 --> 00:57:52,710 printing where you have a solid fly 1403 00:57:57,470 --> 00:57:55,260 lastic feedstock and you melted through 1404 00:58:00,740 --> 00:57:57,480 a nozzle so it's like imagine like a hot 1405 00:58:03,170 --> 00:58:00,750 glue gun that was something that we saw 1406 00:58:04,940 --> 00:58:03,180 at the highest potential just working in 1407 00:58:07,370 --> 00:58:04,950 zero gravity we didn't have to control a 1408 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:07,380 fluid we have to control a powder of 1409 00:58:12,770 --> 00:58:10,250 metal and it also would be useful 1410 00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:12,780 astronauts can use it people could use 1411 00:58:18,020 --> 00:58:16,290 it so that was our path there's we would 1412 00:58:20,510 --> 00:58:18,030 definitely are working now on many other 1413 00:58:22,790 --> 00:58:20,520 technologies so I mentioned for one the 1414 00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:22,800 lunar printing we were making sure our 1415 00:58:28,099 --> 00:58:26,130 technology could be used on the moon but 1416 00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:28,109 you know we have to keep developing new 1417 00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:30,450 technologies or we will never get the 1418 00:58:33,829 --> 00:58:32,130 full picture of space manufacturing 1419 00:58:35,300 --> 00:58:33,839 awesome well that's we're going to I 1420 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:35,310 guess well that'll be a good place to 1421 00:58:39,710 --> 00:58:37,010 close it there we're running out of time 1422 00:58:41,810 --> 00:58:39,720 Jason Dunn he's the co-founder and the 1423 00:58:44,420 --> 00:58:41,820 chief technology officer of made in 1424 00:58:45,770 --> 00:58:44,430 space a company that is currently 1425 00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:45,780 working with NASA to test this 1426 00:58:50,540 --> 00:58:47,970 technology of manufacturing out in 1427 00:58:55,190 --> 00:58:50,550 zero-g their website is made in space 1428 00:58:57,380 --> 00:58:55,200 dot u dot us right based on us and you 1429 00:58:59,990 --> 00:58:57,390 can follow these guys and at made his 1430 00:59:01,220 --> 00:59:00,000 faith and keep in Jason I hope we can 1431 00:59:03,290 --> 00:59:01,230 have you back and you'll talk to us 1432 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:03,300 again about how things are going and but 1433 00:59:07,370 --> 00:59:05,010 and how it went after you get some 1434 00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:07,380 results I would love to thanks for 1435 00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:09,570 having awesome that's great thank you so 1436 00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:12,930 much that's for the up okay well guys I 1437 00:59:18,050 --> 00:59:15,210 guess that's it for now next week we're 1438 00:59:20,210 --> 00:59:18,060 going to be talking about comet siding 1439 00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:20,220 spring I believe for the Hubble you're 1440 00:59:24,230 --> 00:59:22,530 supposed to be looking at it I guess 1441 00:59:27,710 --> 00:59:24,240 this weekend it's looking at isn't right 1442 00:59:29,300 --> 00:59:27,720 up in ok so we'll be talking about what 1443 00:59:30,589 --> 00:59:29,310 it sees and we'll have images to show 1444 00:59:32,359 --> 00:59:30,599 you and hopefully there will be some 1445 00:59:35,839 --> 00:59:32,369 cool stuff that comes out of that so 1446 00:59:37,849 --> 00:59:35,849 until then we would like you to 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